F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

---says the guy who thinks numerous indictments and guilty pleas from Bonespurs' staff and campaign is a "nothing burger".

My arguments are compelling, and based upon facts, reason and logic. Yours? Not so much.

 

Childish nonsense; all the Muellerites have left.

 

It's all they've got.

 

The vacuous, inafantile hostility of the Muellerite argument is matched only by the tendency of those duped to project their flailing & floundering onto others.

 

Your projection ability is world class.
Likewise your flailing and floundering ability.

 

Name one thing that is the best evidence of this. Trump has been harder on Russia than Obama was.

 

As it pertains to the original thrust of this investigation, they are indeed total nothing burgers.

So far, there isn't a shred of proof or evidence indicating that Trump "colluded" with the Russian government in a way that was illegal, unethical, or even unusual. Indeed, there isn't a shred of proof or evidence indicating that the Russian government "interfered" in US elections, period. It's just a bunch of wild-ass speculation, hysteria, and innuendo masquerading as substance.

Yet you refuse to produce even one compelling fact to support your argument when challenged directly. All you have are vague allusions to facts, logic and some tangential indictments that prove absolutely nothing.

 

I have. Numerous times. Do you want me to go around repeating myself?

 

You already do that. You repeat accusations incessantly. So you should be prepared to present the evidence when asked for it. The fact that you are so resistant to the idea indicates that your evidence is thin at best. It's all just a bunch of insinuation and speculation and innuendo. There is nothing that logically implies any sort of "collusion" or "interference" in the 2016 election. It's just a bunch of disjointed, tangential information held together by collective hysteria and hatred.

 

Hokay, my delusional chum.

More of the same old, same old from a trumper. If you can't be bothered to remember anything, I can't be bothered to continue to remind you of my previous posts. There are others worse than you here, to be sure, but none quite as deliberately and obediently forgetful.

 

I'm not a Trump supporter, just someone who knows BS when he sees it. Many liberal journalists and intellectuals agree with me on this: Glenn Greenwald, Seymour Hersh, Stephen Cohen, Noam Chomsky, Matt Taibbi, Robert Parry. All liberals and progressives who have savaged various aspects of the Russian "collusion" and "interference" narratives. You just cannot accept that you exist inside a hyper-partisan fringe bubble and that even other liberals are embarrassed by your behavior.

Anyway, the only thing conspiracy theorists like you have cited are totally inconclusive and ambiguous.

Indictments which prove absolutely nothing.

A few guilty pleas for process crimes that are, at best, tangentially related to the "collusion" and "interference" allegations being thrown around.

Some business relationships that Trump had in or with Russia. Again, doesn't prove a thing.

One meeting between Trump's son and some Russian lawyer woman that resulted in nothing significant.

So what else you got besides all that innuendo and feverish dot-connecting?

My advice would be to stop watching CNN and MSNBC for a while. They are clearly poisoning your mind and causing you to behave foolishly.

 

1. Trump's son, his campaign manager, his son in law, and a number of russians meet with a Russian state actor to obtain "dirt" on Hillary Clinton while they discuss the Magnitsky Act, and you don't see anything "significant" there? That's delusional.
2. Business relations with a foreign adversary, and that's just jimdandy? Again, delusional. Consider the fact that this is a serious conflict of interest and may well cause him to shape foreign policy in a way that's consistent with his own interests, and not the country's interests.
3. There's a reason that prosecutors and the Mueller team sought cooperation from criminals from inside Bonespurs' camp. You seem to believe that the only thing that these clowns have done is to lie to the FBI, which is a child's understanding of those events. The agreed to cooperate because they're guilty of much more serious crimes; that's how this works--that's the real world--the adult world. If you think that they're cooperating only because they "fibbed" to the FBI, you're willfully delusional.
4. Why do you suppose that the Mueller investigation is ongoing--because he's an "angry democrat" who's "upset about Hillary losing"? LOL!
5. Bonespurs is recorded telling Cohen to pay off porn stars and Playboy bunnies in the midst of a campaign. This is a textbook violation of campaign finance laws. But, to a "nontrumpsupporterhonestreally!" it's no big deal. Well it's a ****ing felony, my nontrumpsupportingchumreallyhonest! chum.
6. There's a lot more, but you'll actually have to search my posts, my lazy amigo.

 

Not legally significant, no. There is no law against meeting with Russian people and discussing opposition research and foreign policy issues. It's fundamentally no different than what the DNC did when they hired Steele, a foreign operative, to dig up dirt on Trump.

"Foreign adversary" is a term with no legal significance or meaning. It's just some informal term you're throwing around in order to puff up your incredibly shaky argument.

The fact is, there is nothing illegal or even unusual about an elected representative having business ties to questionable countries and governments. Again, simply look at the Clinton machine, who cultivated all sorts of questionable business relationships under the rubric of their nominally charitable activities.

This is nothing more than pure speculation on your part.

You're supposed to be providing evidence in support of your ridiculous conspiracy theory. I see absolutely none in this statement.

This has nothing to do with Russian "collusion" or "interference".

Thanks for proving me 100% correct about everything I said so far.

You failed to produce even one shred of evidence which legally implicates Trump in "collusion".

All you have is a bunch of canards and red herrings masquerading as profound observations.

 

Are you a Conservative/Republican?

 

I was originally going to pick apart your post section by section, but I see that @Ethereal has already ripped it to shreds pretty comprehensively, leaving me with very little to do. So, making payments to people is "a textbook violation of campaign finance laws?" Surely you can't be serious. Also, you're not actually saying that there is PROOF of collusion are you?

 

^ Case in point.

 

At absolute best.

 

^ Massive thread win.

 

You know I'm not.

 

How would I know that for certain? Democrat/Liberal then?

 

SMPP

 

The FBI was doing its due diligence based on Trump's past and present behavior, and I agree that it is a nothing burger.
More likely that Trump was and is being manipulated, by his dictator pal Putin, into lifting sanctions.

 

I don't agree with your premise. Comey exposed the emails before the election and cost Hilary a victory. If he waited until after the election to expose the emails he would have been labeled a Clinton supporter and responsible for Trump's loss. And she lost, so let her go. This is not a banana republic where the opponent is arrested and tried in court. Actually, Trump has done the same or worse by using any unprotected cell phone to call and discuss issues, and our adversaries have been listening.

 

Comey actively worked to torpedo Trump before and after the election. He leaked negative information to the press to start the Mueller investigation and now supports democrats. No need for an underhanded biased and treacherous head of the FBI to be in the FBI.

 

The Mueller investigation was initiated because Trump fired Comey for all the wrong reasons --- the Russian investigation, Comey's refusal to swear personal allegiance to Trump, and his refusal to drop the Flynn investigation. We don't know who Comey supports
since he is a Republican as is Mueller. He obviously is not a fan of Trump, and understandably so.