FactCheck.org - Yet another source of leftist false info

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  1. PirtiusDominus

    PirtiusDominus Member Past Donor

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    The Left excels at throwing graphs and charts....and <cough> "facts" out. The vast majority of which turn out to be propaganda.

    FactCheck.org is just such a place.

    After reading FactCheck.org a while and getting a feel for a left leaning bias...I started checking it out.
    Turns out it's a Chicago loving, Left leaning. Obama supporting organization after all.


    http://www.answers.com/Q/Is_the_Annenberg_public_policy_center_liberal_or_conservative
     
  2. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    Please post something from Fact Check that is false.
     
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    Worst Fact-Checks of the 2012 Election

    FactCheck&#8217;s record of errors, corrections


     
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    smallblue Well-Known Member

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    ^^ From your link. Hmmm, so the link you are using to conclude they are partisan lefts concludes. . .they are not partisan left. . .
     
  5. Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Well-Known Member

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    Do you know who Walter H. Annenberg was. He was the founder of the Annenberg Foundation which is still run by his family. He was a conservative and a philanthropist who funded educational and communication grants for people on both sides of the political spectrum. Here are some quotes from his obituary:
    "Mr. Annenberg was a fervid patriot and Republican whose close friends included Presidents Richard M. Nixon and Ronald Reagan, to whom he gave considerable financial support. His friendship with Mr. Reagan went back to the 1930's, when Mr. Annenberg was a frequent visitor to Hollywood, and for years the Reagans had a tradition of celebrating New Year's holidays at Sunnylands, his palatial 240-acre compound in Rancho Mirage, Calif., near Palm Springs, where President Nixon was also a guest at various times. The Annenbergs divided their time between Sunnylands and Inwood, a baronial manor in Wynnewood, Pa., on Philadelphia's Main Line.
    In 1969, Nixon named Mr. Annenberg ambassador to Britain, the most coveted American diplomatic post.
    In a statement yesterday, President Bush called Mr. Annenberg ''a shining example of generosity, patriotism and dedication to serving others'' and praised his ''commitment to education reform'' and his support for scholarships.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/02/arts/walter-annenberg-94-dies-philanthropist-and-publisher.html

    Where is his link to leftist politics?
     
  6. Nat Turner

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    What an amazing coincidence that Politifact, FactCheck, Snopes,the Post's Kessler, etc have all been slandered and attacked by the fever swamp right wing for being leftist, liberal Democrat Obamanauts. The minority of the time they have found fault with non-right wing sources, of course the right wing loves trumpeting the fact.
     
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    But Walters relatives who now run the Anneberg Foundation are extreme radical leftist. Big time connections too the radical left terrorist organization Weatherman/Weather Underground (Bill Ayres and Bernardine Dohrn)
     
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    You know that the Weather Underground has been defunct for almost 40 years, right?

    Per opensecrets.org, the Annenberg Foundation has made contributions to such radical leftists as John McCain, Arlen Specter, Rick Santorum , and John Boehner over the last 10 years.
     
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    republicans hate it when people fact check their comments, no wonder they dislike factcheck.org
     
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    What I love is when GOP lovers find something in factcheck that AGREES with them, suddenly and only then is it a valid source lol.
     
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  12. Sirius Black

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    The Bill Ayers grant was given by Walter Annenberg and his wife. Just because someone gives a grant, one of thousands, to someone you do not like does not make him or his wife or his children Weathermen...Of course if you have done your homework and have some proof I would be more than willing to look at it.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see your point, like when Barack Obama armed Al Qaedia factions in Libya to over throw an American ally.

    Or when Barack Obama armed Al Qaeda in Syria.
     
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    Sirius Black Well-Known Member

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    What has this got to do with Annenberg?
    Oh, Did you know that President Reagan armed Al Quaeda in Afghanistan with stinger missles when he was president?
     
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    President Reagan ??? another liberal lie that the uninformed believed.

    Actually it was a liberal Democrat who got Congress to arm the Mujahideen in Afghanistan with stinger missiles.
    There was no Al Qaeda when Reagan was President.

    Does Charley Wilson ring a bell ?

    How about Charley Wilson's War ?

     
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    So what is the source of of the facts that the checkers of the fact checkers are comparing their facts to?

    Fact checkers may make errors, but I still don't believe it's a leftist organization.

    In fact I think those people who claim it is draw their "facts" from the conserveopedia.
     
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    I'd be very very careful with anything that comes from "answers.com". It's a "Q&A" (questions & answers) site...NOT a fact checking site. The way it works is that you join the site, then ask a question about anything your little heart desires. All members can answer the question then the same members pick the best answer by determining if they found it "useful" (not factual). The answers are anonymous as are the members. No citations are required. In essence, it's a popularity contest and the entire site is rife with bias. You can make up something out of thin air and if you can get enough votes for it, it becomes the approved answer. There is no oversight on answers except to keep out spammers, porn, bad language, etc. No one with half a brain uses anything they say it in a debate or discussion.

    In regards to factcheck.org;


    FactCheck.org is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania. The APPC was established by publisher and philanthropist Walter Annenberg to create a community of scholars within the University of Pennsylvania that would address public policy issues at the local, state and federal levels. - source

    Whether or not it is "liberal leaning" is up to the viewer. I have found that any site, organization, university, think tank, research facility or person who takes issue with anything the political right believes in is automatically branded a liberal. To the conservatives, either you are for them or against them....no middle ground.

    People should do their own fact checking.
     
  18. Cautiously Conservative

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    It's not a valid source any way you cut it.
     
  19. Tram Law

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    Horsecrap.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Horsecrap.
     
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    Okay, so we know "horsecrap" is in your vocabulary, but you can't back it up. If you look at the articles Factcheck.org runs - and look honestly - you'll find that most of them focus on biased trashing of Republicans.

    For example, you'll find more than a few dozen articles denouncing and decrying the investigations of Benghazi, but you won't find any addressing the violation by Obama of the War Powers Resolution, even though his own party members threaten him over it.

    It's bias by omission. If you go around and pick out only (or most) subjects that support you, you can then throw in a bit of self-serving prostration and make folks think you're on the up and up. Factcheck.org is a hack site. The info they DO publish is typically close to being the truth - but as I said - their sin is the sin of omission.

    You can take that horsecrap to the bank young fella.
     
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    Horsecrap.

    You're practicing guilt by association.

    Just because something is omitted doesn't mean it's leftist. It could be an error, but in this case I doubt it.

    You're the one who's presenting a very flawed claim, not me.

    And you're also cherry picking and false dichotomy.

    Not to mention the biggest flaw of all, that if it doesn't have anything good to say about conservatives then it must be
    leftist.

    Nothing can be further from the truth.

    You need to learn how to think outside your partisan locks.
     
  22. mamooth

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    It is accurate to say that fact-checking is a liberal plot, being that reality has a well-known liberal bias.

    It's also sad that conservatives have become such sworn enemies of fact-checking.
     
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    Cautiously Conservative New Member Past Donor

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    This photo is certainly less than 40 years old, don'tcha think?

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    Diversion money. It's a necessary evil.
     
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    Cautiously Conservative New Member Past Donor

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    To borrow your term, your post is a lot of horsecrap.

    The Annenberg Foundation is a leftist rag. When they start covering topics equally, perhaps I'll change my mind. For now - they have no credibility.
     
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    "we&#8217;re looking at a political subculture in which ideological tenets are simply not to be questioned, no matter what. Supply-side economics is valid no matter what actually happens to the economy, guaranteed health insurance must be a failure even if it&#8217;s working, and anyone who points out the troubling facts is ipso facto an enemy.

    And we&#8217;re not talking about marginal figures. You sometimes hear claims that the old-fashioned Republican establishment is making a comeback, that Tea Party extremists are on the run and we can get back to bipartisan cooperation. But that is a fantasy. We can&#8217;t have meaningful cooperation when we can&#8217;t agree on reality, when even establishment figures in the Republican Party essentially believe that facts have a liberal bias."

    -Paul Krugman
     

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