Fallacies of Evolution Redux

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And even when they do so with bacterial generations he dismisses that as well, he probably uses the flu shots they make however.

    What he really wants is for you to go to his house with a frog in a fish tank and make it turn into a Dog.
     
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    I wonder what he thinks causes the need for different flu shots every year.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Easy...that is Satan.
     
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    Evolution is logical conclusions based on empirical ( one can see with his own eyes, touch and measure with instruments) evidence.

    Therefore it does not belong to natural sciences but to theology, personal views, religion, no different from creationism.

    No wise person would argue against religion, whether it is evolution or creationism, especially against religious fanatics typing big bold and colorful letters.
     
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    What is a single practical use (produce) of evolution?

    I am asking this in order to demonstrate that no believers in evolution can understand less answer a simple questions.

    I demonstrate for everyone to see.

    That is science.

    Any theory of natural science can be demonstrated any time on demand for everyone to see.

    Not evolution, not Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    However long you try.
     
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    WHAT??

    Theology is what requires absolutely ZERO evidence.

    Evolution has boat loads.
     
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    Diagnosing disease, vaccines, medications, testing of pharmaceuticals, engineering plant characteristics, ...

    good lord!
    Did you get THIS YEAR'S flu shot?
     
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    Please demonstrate that Theology is what requires absolutely ZERO evidence for everyone to see.
     
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    Thank you for letting me to demonstrate that no believer in evolution can understand less answer a simple question.

    Let start from Diagnosing disease.

    Demonstrate to me how evolution has anything to do to Diagnosing disease.

    Show me one single MD who ever in history used evolution do diagnose a single disease.

    Do you understand.?

    One.

    I have not seen a single believer in evolution who can count to one.

    It means not two, not ten, not many.

    Just one to prove me wrong.
     
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    OK.
    [insert my theology here]
    There you go.
     
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    You made the claim.

    The onus is on you.

    Insert.
     
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    There are all sorts of things that MD's use in order to do their work. They don't pull out and demonstrate each one. However, they are significant additions to the MD's process.
    Did you get THIS YEAR'S flu shot?
     
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    No, the point is that regardless of what I put in those brackets, that IS my theology if I choose it to be.

    I don't need ANY evidence.
    I don't have to have thought it through.
    What ANYBODY (other than me) thinks about it is totally irrelevant.
    If in my theology 1+1=0 and you point out that it isn't, that doesn't matter. It's still my theology.

    Think about the variety of religious thought throughout the world over the time period of the earliest humans up to tonight. Whether you agree with any of them doesn't even matter.
     
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    That makes no sense whatsoever.
     
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    Much like other Creationists before you those are figments of your imagination.
     
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    See, this is the embarrassing behavior I am talking about. Your squawking on the internet, backed up by your regurgitation of other internet squawkers, presents no actual challenge to the most robust scientific theory in history. One would have to be completely daft to think it does.
     
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    All I asked: Show me one single MD who ever in history used evolution do diagnose a single disease.

    I asked the simple question in order to demonstrate to the public that no believer in evolution can ever understand less answer a simple question.

    I can demonstrate to you how MDs use anatomy, physics, chemistry and all sort of things belonging to natural sciences to diagnose diseases.

    You claimed that they also use evolution.

    All I asked : Show me one single MD who ever in history used evolution do diagnose a single disease.

    One.

    And accept that I am wrong when I point to the fact that in difference from all theories of natural sciences there is no practical use (produce) of evolution, and therefor evolution is not a science.

    I am giving you another chance:

    Show me one single MD who ever in history used evolution do diagnose a single disease.

    One.

    Single.

    Ever.
     
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    From what I understand and if I understand correctly, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

    Whether it is your theology, or your belief or your ideology or your cult does not matter to me, I am not to argue my evidence and my logic against your evidence and your logic, because logic based on evidence and evidence have no place in natural sciences.

    Neither your logic and evidence (or absence of thereof) nor my logic and evidence (or absence of thereof).
     
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    Obviously, that question is silly beyond all possible belief.

    Medical diagnoses are based on evidence collected by the doctor and matched by the doctor to results obtained through experience and training.

    That experience and training is where you have to look.
     
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    I have no hope to crack a hair in a completely closed mind, but let's go sentence by sentence frist and then a word by word if I have patience and if needed.
    "Evolution is logical conclusions based on empirical ( one can see with his own eyes, touch and measure with instruments) evidence."
    What does not make sense?
    What are objections?
     
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    No, natural sciences is founded on nothing BUT evidence and logic. The one presupposition in science is that one may observe the universe. All else is founded on that presupposition, with NO conclusion being beyond question of evidence and logic.

    It is theology where there are no rules of evidence - where observation is irrelevant.
     
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    I don't have.

    Look, do whatever is needed, but show me one single MD who ever in history used evolution do diagnose a single disease.

    One.

    And accept that I am wrong when I point to the fact that in difference from all theories of natural sciences there is no practical use (produce) of evolution, and therefor evolution is not a science.

    I am giving you another chance:

    Show me one single MD who ever in history used evolution do diagnose a single disease.

    One.

    Single.

    Ever.
     
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    That is your belief, and of course as a religious fanatic you cannot demonstrate it is true.

    No religious fanatic can demonstrate that his belief is true.
     
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    I answered that.

    Your question is ridiculous. Doctors use the results - they aren't the ones doing the lab work to create and test solutions.

    Evolution isn't a direct diagnostic tool in a doctor/patient encounter.

    If you get a flu shot this year, it won't be because the folks giving you the shot traced the virus, determined how it changed and created a vaccine.

    Your doctor will just say, "Get a flu vaccine".
     
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    No, there is an actual definition of scientific method, complete with specification of its foundation.

    The root supposition is that we may meaningfully observe the universe.
     

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