FINALLY: UKRAINE will replace "Russia" with "Muscovy"

FINALLY: UKRAINE will replace "Russia" with "Muscovy". other countries will follow , what is gonna go Muscovy (self-proclaimed "Russia") when original owner (Ukraine) has returned home ?. the problem is here as an Asiatic state it has used couple name in the same time , Tatriya, ulus Juchi, Muscovy just few of the them. ulus Juchi (golden horde) is only one real name. or it will some a new name? 1) Slavic - Chechen union of super power ? 2) or maybe something with Putin name - Putinistan, Putinabul, Putinia? what do you think?

https://latestnewsresource.com/en/news/rada-rassmotrit-zakonoproekt-o-zamene-rossii-na-moskoviju

 

Litwin, you heard about the Saint Valentines day telephone call between Obama and Putin?

 

You know litwin, reading your posts I can't help but remembering this Krylov fable I've read when... well... awhile ago. You know the one, about a pug and an elephant?

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Along the streets Big Elephant was led,
To show him off, most likely.
Since Elephants are not a common thing to see
A crowd of gapers followed on his heels.
All of a sudden Pug springs up in front of them.
And seeing Elephant, it raises a great rumpus,
It lunges, barks and howls
And does its best to pick a quarrel.
"Hey neighbor, stop the fuss,"
A mutt intones, "You? Deal with Elephant?
Look at you barking yourself hoarse, and he just strolls
Nonplussed
And doesn't care one bit about your noise."
"Ho ho!" Pug says,
"That's just what I enjoy,
Since I can be a real tough guy
Without a single blow or bruise.
That way, the other dogs will say:
"To bark at Elephant this Pug
Must be a real strong mug!"

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The good example of pseudo-historical stupidity, as Rus' was created in 862 in Novgorod. Kiev being conquered by Novgorod duke has become the capital 20 years later. Taking into account the fact that Kiev was completely dispopulated after Batu khan invasion, the current population of Kiev has nothing to do with the population of ancient Kievan duchy. So your post is good for your friends - ignoramuses only. However, this is good news, the more idioty in Ukraine, the faster this geopolitical abracadabra will disappear at last.

 

When these western and non-corrupt revolutionaries make Ukraine Russia, I hope noone will blame Putin for it...

But it's all quite amazing. First they take a dictator off to live like western european countries and then they become tribals ruining their own country and degrading and at last they come to countries which they looked at as a model before they took part in color revolution. So at the very end the side which supported a color revolution has huge problems inside with the people who want to live good and contributing nothing and outside where tons of blood are spilt and peace won't restore fast... This is why your kind and those who made you deserve to be convicted. All this fight for the good intentions brought nothing but suffering and war to the people. It would be sooo nice if you guys were watching videos of cats!

 

just even want to go into your Muscovite history book, with academical poly - vector term rus´. just one question which connection has had your Mongolian ulus Juchi to the European state - Novgorod republic?

 

i do agree with you, Muscovy is just a Pug...the best Muscovian expert in economy Demura put it very right:

[video=youtube;PH7rCm_7rPU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH7rCm_7rPU[/video]
use subtitles))

http://agro2b.ru/en/news/26943-the-introduction-food-cards-Russia-allocated.html

 

Mr. Litwin show me any ancient Russian or Golden Horde chronicle where Duchy of Moscow is specified as ulus of Golden Horde or do not bother me with your delirium please.

 

People. It was the same people of the same origin, speaking the same language, sharing the same religion and descendants of the same tribe. Kiev was founded as a base for control over the Dnepr trade route. In order to promote this route Svyatoslav made an attack on Khazar Kaganate which controlled Volga trade route. At that time all the Europe preffered to use this route rather than mediterrenean and it brought a fortune to Kiev. But soon the world trade went a different way and Kiev lost the status of capitol even before Moscow was founded. Unlike Kiev Novgorod has always united northern Europe with all the trade routes. This is partly why Peter the First move his capital not to wonderful place of Kiev which was deeply provincial by his time, but to a completely new place. Unfortunately he couldn't forsee the development of information technics and inner development of Russia, which remade Moscow a capitol back again.

This is all the story behind the Kiev leadership. Of 1000 years of russian state history it lasted for about 100 years and finished long before russian and ukrainian nation was formed.

 

Actually, in Krylov's fable the big elephant be representing Russia, while the pug reminds me of you

 

[video=youtube;JNI9iIWg5EE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNI9iIWg5EE[/video]

, Golden Horde was ulus , ulus Juchi and Muscovy was part of it without any spacial rights or autonomy until 18c.
2) same language with Kyiv Rus?))) guys have ever been in school? even in your school always drunk teachers know that you speak your Muscovite version of the old Bulgarian language . kyiv rus language speak Belarusians and Ukrainians

 

Ukrainian politicians better took care about their internal serious problems, rather than developing idiotic bills in Rada. This shows well the level of intelligence of those who work there.

 

you have missed so much, do you know that Germany began to punish paid Kremlin trolls and Kremlin TV - propagandacondoms ? i really want to know what you think about it...need the link?

 

litwin I repeat to you again. Keep this bull (*)(*)(*)(*) to your friends - ignoramuses. FYI Ulus Juchi was the forerunner of Golden Horde. So Ulus Juchi and Golden Horde are the same thing. The Golden Horde was completely disintegrated in XV century. But according to you, Muscovy and Golden Horde were uluses of Golden Horde to the XVIII century, while the Golden Horde has ceased to exist in XV century. Are you Ok?

However, I wrote to you another request: show me any ancient Russian or Golden Horde's chronicle where Duchy of Moscow is specified as ulus of Golden Horde or do not bother me with your delirium please. But you continue to bother me with this idiocy. So I conclude you do not understand me. This means I have to repeat my request. Show me any ancient Russian or Golden Horde's chronicle where Duchy of Moscow is specified as ulus of Golden Horde. I was asking you to show the primary source, I do not need your idiotic posts and I do not need a movie with talking heads who wrote a book with the purpose to earn money a year ago. Show me the chronicle. I repeat: I need the ancient chronicle where it is said that Moscow is ulus of Golden Horde. Do you understand me at last?

 

Ukrainian politicians already have renamed several cities of Crimea that does not belong to them any more. Now they have decided to rename Russia. Not every circus has such talented clowns.

 

I know about the Russian journalist that presented news about "raped" Russian girl. Germans try to suit him, but they better looked after their migrants who make sexual harassment towards German women.

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Indeed, this looks like a circus.

 

Calling someone a Mongolian is commonplace in Eastern Europe to anyone who doesn't emulate Western standards. I guess it means they have to be untermenchens ...not supermenchens like the people in the Baltics. Strange then if they're supermenchens, why aren't they wanted in the EU?

 

a sovok school level post , year 1953
XV...why did you pay taxes and licked the boots of the Genghisids till 18c.? and who has had more legitimacy to rule over lands of ulus Juchy your Muscovite Kobylas or Girais ? LOL)) whats about form of Governance the most important indicator , do you have rusin/European or Asiatic / Oriental one? do you consider yourself as an European?)))

 

do you think that the brutal attack on German media and values by RT- dirty media urinals is nothing to worry about?

ps

 

Sovok, vatnik and blah, blah, blah. Will you show the ancient chronicle where it is said that Moscow is ulus of Golden Horde at last?

 

have you seen the academical video which i posted? did you get that term Mongolian (much like term Rus´) is a multidimensional one ?

[video=youtube;qihk1rfloag]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qihk1rfloag[/video]

 

chronicle ? which chronicles? power holders ( "As Vladimir Monomakh was the patron of the village of Vydubychi where his monastery is situated, the new edition glorified that prince and made him the central figure of later narrative") propaganda written many 100 years after the described events by non professionals? "The early part of the Chronicle features many anecdotal stories" , and "Because the original of the chronicle as well as the earliest known copies are lost, it is difficult to establish the original content of the chronicle"

 

For those who wonder why the insanity of Ukraine is becoming legendary, I give the following excerpts from an article in Fort Russ:

According to FSB sources, Ukraine has recorded facts of a large-scale "zombie" manipulation of the population. At water intake stations drinking water has been treated for over one and a half years using a new disinfectant material supplied to Ukraine by U.S. chemical companies. The activities of these companies are actively supported by the U.S. Department of State and as part of the promotion of ecological projects of the world famous "Greenpeace".

Chemical reagents of a new generation allow the purification of water, softening, removal of impurities and odours to make the water suitable for drinking without the use of chlorine. However, part of the purified water in Ukrainian houses and apartments comes with an innocent looking cleaning chemical "residue".

According to experts, nothing was found except "Psychotropic WMZ" (weapons of mass zombification). Together with the exposure to television information and media publications (propaganda), it is applied to the Ukrainians to implement specific thoughts, goals and targets.

With reference to the documents on the supply of "harmless" reagents to the Western regions of Ukraine: Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopil, Lviv, Vinnytsia, Lutsk, Zhytomyr, Kiev, Rivne, Chernivtsi, Rivne – have had the "poison" chemical since October 2012.

Regions: Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk, Cherkassy, Poltava, Kharkov, Zaporozhye, Kirovograd, Lugansk, Krivoy Rog, Kherson, Odessa, Donetsk – have had the "poison" since March 2013.

In February 2014, in the article "Psychotropic drugs as tools of manipulation of public consciousness in general, and in particular Euromaiden", the author not only reviewed the use of artificial stimulants in the wars, but also noted that "ex-boxer" Klitschko, under the guise of sports bags, took drugs to the "Maidan" - combat psychostimulants of the U.S. army, included in the first aid kit of the special forces..

In April 2014 the acting mayor of Kiev, Volodymyr Bondarenko admitted that in the occupied city hall during the "euromaidan" was a workshop for the manufacture of drugs. These drugs were distributed to mass murderers in Odessa on May 2nd.

Industrial quantities of chemicals for the production of Captagon in Ukraine were delivered, in particular, on 11th May. At Kiev airport, under cover of strict secrecy, the cargo arrived and was unloaded, consisting of containers of prepared amphetamine pills. The cargo was accompanied by CIA officers, soldiers and 70 mercenaries from Polish PMCs.

In Kiev SBU, soldiers, cargo and containers of chemicals were not inspected and left the airport building in tinted cars.​

 

About what chronicle you are talking? Do you say about the Hypatian Codex or Laurentian Codex, maybe about Radziwill Chronicle? Or maybe you say about the Novgorod and Tver chronicles or about Galician one? Which of 700 volumes of Russian chronicles are you talking about? Specify please.

 

litwin. In addition Monomakh lived 150 years before the Mongolian invasion. He did not live in Moscow and Moscow even did not exist in his time. He has nothing to do with ulus Juchi. So if Moscow duchy was ulus of Golden Horde, it could happen in the end of XIII, XIV and early XV centuries. As far as I know there are many originals of annals of that time kept up to now. I do not ask you to quote the Primary Chronicle. Show me the annals of XIV and XV century, where it is said that the Duchy of Moscow is ulus of Golden Horde.