FISA Judges Have Been Informed - What Are They Doing????

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    according to the information made public, you mean.

    OTOH, some of Manafort's crimes predated the investigation.
     
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    The entire Stone indictment was not made public? What was deleted or redacted?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And if Trump is a russian spy America is screwed.

    IF is such a flexible word, isn't it?
     
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    You seem paranoid about Trump. If worried, be worried about the unelected who think they are in charge.
     
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    MickAtNight Banned

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    Good grief, after getting embarrassed you just simply go and double down on it because your position is screwed? No one said anything about the FBI traveling anywhere. The FBI does needs SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION proving what the dossier is saying. What is it you are not getting here?
     
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    The FBI admitted it wasn't. And, no, Page wasn't in Russia meeting with Russian intelligence. That's long since been debunked. You are living on your left wing fake news. No wonder you miss most of what is really going on because you believe that phony left wing news is true.
     
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    So if you pay to dig up dirt on someone the information gleaned can't be true because it was payed for? What kind of twisted logic is that?
     
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    Carter Page worked on his campaign. By getting a FISA warrant they could examine all his communications with others in the campaign and could go back and look at old text messages, emails, etc. It was a conduit to the inside justified by political propaganda paid for by Democrats. Sick stuff.
     
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    I'm not getting why your are trying to defend a conspiracy theory.
    Four Republican appointed judges approved the page warrants. Are you trying to say none of them know what they are doing.
    Wait. Stop.
    It was clearly pointed out in the original that the dossier was paid for by Trump's opponent, with the only claim that other information he had supplied before had proved credible.
     
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    Who said anything about "can't"? We said it came from a biased source and was salacious and unverified. Using garbage like that to justify spying on your political enemies are actions left wing banana republics engage in.......and Obama's DOJ.
     
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    You haven't come close to proving your case that the warrant procedure broke protocol. Wake up.
     
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    We are saying they were presented bogus information to the court. Judge makes the assumption that if it got to that point it was corroborated. In a small footnote they say they SPECULATE that their source wasn't fond of Trump but then they go on and on about his credibility even though the FBI had terminated him for lying to them and leaking to the press.

    You are having a hard time here. The dossier is garbage and the left wingers who dressed it up and used it despite its sketchiness broke the law. Facts matter.
     
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    That's a pretty wild claim. Do you have any evidence at all to back it up?
     
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    FISA Woods Procedures. I've provided links on this thread. Educate yourself on what they are and how they apply here and then come back. You are embarrassing yourself.
     
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    I'll pull the EXACT same line used by the Trump administration with the Stone indictment yesterday for the FISA warrant... It works just as well here as it does there.

    "The [FISA Warrant] has nothing to do with the president, has nothing to do with White House,"
     
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    I guess you need to stop going to fake left wing news sources and read up on what the FBI has admitted regarding the veracity of the dossier. It's readily available from legitimate news sources.
     
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    no the question is what parts have been proven
    In a court of law you have to verify evidence to meet probable cause to qualify for a warrant lack of verification doesn't come close
     
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    You mean the ones that uphold the rule of law?
     
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    You're embarrassing yourself. Stop it. The dossier was only part of the evidence. And much of has been shown to be accurate anyway. You should stop letting limbaugh think for you.
     
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    Surprise surprise. Seems some people are keeping track.

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-dossier-retrospective
     
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    No, only the over zealous bad apples. Unfortunately the last crop produced some rotten civil servants that happened to be at the top.
     
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    Page did not work for the campaign at that time.
     
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    He’s was targetted by Russian spies once and continued trying to get in with the Kremlin. That’s all I need to know.
     
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    Obviously, but that's an interesting point... does anybody have anything on record that indicates a FISA warrant allow the feds to go back in time before the surveillance begins?
     

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