Florida changed its COVID-19 data, creating an ‘artificial decline’ in recent deaths

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The culture of corruption....Anything to make it look like things are under control when they are not. This is why FL had to revise deaths up by 900+ last week. They want to report low daily count to make the charts make look pretty, and then do a bulk revision, which does not affect the averages

    Florida changed its COVID-19 data, creating an ‘artificial decline’ in recent deaths
    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253796898.html

    As the delta variant spreads through Florida, data published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggest this could be the most serious and deadly surge in COVID-19 infections since the beginning of the pandemic.

    As cases ballooned in August, however, the Florida Department of Health changed the way it reported death data to the CDC, giving the appearance of a pandemic in decline, an analysis of Florida data by the Miami Herald and el Nuevo Herald found.

    On Monday, Florida death data would have shown an average of 262 daily deaths reported to the CDC over the previous week had the health department used its former reporting system, the Herald analysis showed. Instead, the Monday update from Florida showed just 46 “new deaths” per day over the previous seven days.
     
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    Let's name that "Doing a Cuomo". If DeSantis thinks he's right, why play with the data?
     
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    Florida COVID update: 1,338 more fatalities. Average daily reported deaths reaches record high
    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253940263.html
    Florida on Thursday reported 21,723 more COVID-19 cases and 1,338 additional deaths to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, according to Miami Herald calculations of CDC data.

    All but 38 of the newly reported deaths, about 97%, occurred after Aug. 5, according to the Herald analysis. About 70% of the newly reported died in the past two weeks, the analysis showed. The majority of deaths happened during Florida’s latest surge in COVID-19 cases, fueled by the delta variant.

    In the past seven days, on average, the state has added 325 deaths and 22,308 cases each day, according to Herald calculations of CDC data. This is a record high.
     
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    A whole lot of hypocrites furiously jumped off their rocking chairs when the CDC inflated FLorida’s Health Reported Cases. Don’t trust the CDC they chanted, and I kept telling them; “Don’t trust both the CDC and Florida Health.

    Strange; Texas and Florida nearly have the same number of Covid hospitalized patients, however, Texas health has been reporting + 200 deaths daily, and Florida Health, 8, 12, 16 Deaths daily, and several times, one-day abberations.

    Yesterday, today, and tomorrow, THEY can’t hide the dead bodies.
     
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    China Lied People Died.
     
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    In all honesty the data has been falsified from the begining but you all only seem to have a problem with it when a Republican is doing it. The Democrats are guilty of lying about the actuall number of covid deaths.

    I'm not saying De Santis did this as I have not researched it yet to say if this is fake news or not.
     
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    This has already been shot down in several places. Just more LW fables.
     
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    Well, I’m not playing partisan games, and when it’s all over, if it comes to an end, there will be a final tally.

    In addition, most State’s Health Dept. haven’t published their final 2020 Death counts, and causes of death. When they will, watch out!
     
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    No, it's not a conspiracy, it's happening. They constantly report low daily deaths in order to play down the issue, and then issue massive corrections like the recent 1300 upward correction. It is a blatant effort to mislead the citizens.
     
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    For anyone’s info, Florida Health do report said Covid death aberrations......SEE Florida Health Covid19 Weekly Situation Report, “Covid Death Overview, Page 8, and they’ve been re-adjusting their number of Covid Deaths from previous weeks.

    Graph shows;

    Total deaths over 7 days, from 09 Jul to 16 July; near 500 deaths

    From 17 Jul to 23 July; near 750 deaths

    From 24 July to 30 July; near 1,200 deaths

    From 31 July to 6 Aug; near 1,700 deaths

    From 7 Aug to 13 Aug; near 1,750 deaths

    From 14 Aug to 20 Aug; near 1,500 deaths

    From 21 Aug to 27 Aug; They’ve preliminary reported near 450 deaths. Next week, said 7-day reporting will show over 1,500 deaths, thus, WTF?

    LIKE I SAID, no one should trust Florida Health Daily Covid cases/deaths reportings to the CDC. They’ve been underreporting their daily cases/deaths, and then, QUIETLY re-adjusting their “previous weeks” numbers on Page 1 and 8 of their weekly reports.

    NOTE; I’ve been analyzing Florida Health weekly reports since the beginning of their Delta Wave.

    ALSO, Florida is the only State that does not report their number of non-resident’s Covid Deaths, however, they do report both Residents and Non-Residents Covid Cases. For example;

    Worldometer shows, as of Sep 03;

    a. Florida Total Cumulative Confirmed Cases; 3,354,253.....both residents and non-residents confirmed cases

    b. Cumulative Deaths; 46,234.....Residents ONLY

    Whereas Texas Health do report both Residents and Non-Residents Cases/Deaths, as well as suspected/probable Covid cases/deaths. Therefore, due to different reporting methodologies, Florida and Texas, and other State’s Covid Statistics are INCOMPARABLE.

    LAST, I anticipate a below average intelligent/mentally sick Republican will try to undermine “all of the above” verifiable/indisputable facts.
     
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    In addition to the above-mentioned indisputable facts, several Republicans on this site have accused me of being left-wing biased.

    For anyone’s info, back in April 2020, I was the first poster who reported Cuomo’s hidden number of Nursing Home deaths....SEE this forum pages 36 to 45.....I created several threads that questioned Cuomo’s underreported nursing home deaths, HOWEVER, said threads were created during a period when Republicans only wanted to believe that the numbers of Covid deaths were over-reported, and for said reason, they haven’t acknowledged my findings, and/or have ignored my Cuomo threads, WHY? Because partisan politics is the most common meltal illness in North America.

    In fact, back then, only myself and AmericanNational were questioning Cuomo’s number of Nursing home deaths. Note; Cuomo’s total cumulative Covid Deaths were right, however, NY Nursing Home Residents who died in Hospitals we’re not counted as Nursing Home Deaths, and approx. 7,000 Covid infected Nursing Home Residents died in hospitals.

    In addition, when State’s health will publish their final 2020 death counts, and causes of deaths, I anticipate a whole lot of surprises, both Blue and Red States.
     
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    Nope, it was cleared up days ago. Do a little research.
     
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    Well, I’ve done my phooken research, and the facts I posted about Florida Health’s daily/weekly reportings, and previous week adjustments are indisputable.

    By the way, there’s no proof that both the CDC and Florida Health have over, or underreported their numbers FOR POLITICAL REASONS, and/or in an effort to discredit, or glorify DeSantis.
     
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    I do my research, and I also live in Florida, so this is common knowledge. Feel free to deny it though, if it makes you feel better.
     
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    Great use of logical fallacies. What comprises your "research? Dutifully reading the Miami Herald every day?
     
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    Not even the first time hes been busted screwing with FL's data. Not even the second, or third, or tenth time either. I hope that when he loses his replacement will name a FL AG that will pursue criminal charges against this DeathSantis and his administration.
     
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    I've been thinking about this because @Pro_Line_FL really stays on top of it to let us outsiders know what's happening down there. I'm STILL in shock over a grown man grabbing somebody else's kid at a school. I can't say that person would still be taking in oxygen if he touched one of my kids. That's just outrageous no matter what she did.

    Beyond that, and I don't have a solid idea on this but I'm wondering if there is a way to have a barrier between those two things. Like I said I don't have the concept complete but if there was *something* in between the people that calculate the numbers and the people that report the numbers, this kind of thing couldn't happen. If that *entity* existed, there would have been no way for Cuomo to get an Emmy for his COIVD response because the numbers would not look right from the outset. And, if DeSantis is not just transposing some numbers a time or two and this is an ongoing and deliberate effort to misrepresent this to his constituents, he deserves to be fired (voted out).

    I honestly don't understand how he thinks following Trump's play on COVID (which got him fired) would work for him (and not get him fired). You don't copy the guy that hit the foul ball. You emulate the one that hit the home runs and, if they don't exist, you become that one. That's how you get your supporters trust and backing.
     
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    Either seriously overestimating the size of his spreadneck base (which would be dumb considering the super super super slim margin that he won by) or he truly is a demonic sadist. I think its both.
     
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    I think this is the first time I've seen you say that. Wow, a demonic sadist. ;-)

    Do you have a temperature gauge on how many parents and school board officials have switched camps because of threats of withholding paychecks and other such bullying? It never made sense to me for people to mess with people's kids. Unless you're some kind of psychopath, most parents are going to protect their kids. That wasn't smart at all but I'm not getting a ton of smart vibes from several of our governors, including mine. I'm still shaking my head over the toilet thing.
     
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    No, I don't have kids so my circle is really all fellow DINKs.
     
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    I don't mean to sound rude but that's probably a good thing. Your disdain for him right is pretty high. I imagine if he was playing these games AND you had kids stuck in the middle, you might be on the other side of a jail cell. So, I'm glad that one issue is not an immediate concern. ;-)
     

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