Florida Gov. DeSantis Rejects Vaccine Passports As 'Completely Unacceptable'

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  1. MJ Davies

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    Florida Gov. DeSantis Rejects Vaccine Passports As 'Completely Unacceptable'
    Document: https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/EO-21-81.pdf

    Here is some more pushback on vaccine passports. I think many other states will follow suit soon.

    What do you think?
     
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    pay attention to the words chosen by NPR "But there is skepticism in some circles, particularly on the right,"

    What happened is the media so over-played the virus, which has a low kill rate when you consider the population of each nation.

    Now, after all the hysteria, how can you tell the folks to go out and be free when freedom is what was trying to be suppressed .

    As for covid testing, I could show negative today, tomorrow, but in 3 days, show positive. Basically, the testing prior to travel is pretty useless.

    Common sense wasn't even considered during all of this hysteria. What is happening is the population who had Covid have antibodies and the vaccinations, the risk of catching Covid is dropping. It's the same thing with any virus that has been around for a while
     
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    I agree the pre-testing is ridiculous. I've gone through it five times for various medical procedures and all they tell you is to self-quarantine between the test date and the procedure date but there is no way to verify that a person actually did that.

    Plus, I tested positive in November and there was NO possible way for me to contract the virus except from one person and she tested negative. Something doesn't add up in my situation.

    As you know, there are some posters here that believe the virus was planned and this is all part of it. The part I'm struggling with understanding is the purpose behind forcing us all into lockdown. What's the gain for the "powers that be"?

    Beyond that, I don't understand how/why some areas are having such a tough go of things if it's all a garden variety virus (for example, Brazil).

    It could be argued that it's to make money but the testing and the vaccinations have been free thus far (as far I know at this point anyway) and the government has been subsidizing development and loaning personnel, supplies and equipment to others.

    So, I still don't "get" it. Who is the Wizard behind the magic curtain and what does he gain in all this?
     
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    Nothing I can do about it. I can say if I had a brick and mortar business no one would be permitted to enter and transact business without some type of vaccination verification. I don't know if DeSantis took that into consideration or not.
     
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    I live in IL and our governor issued a mask mandate. It didn't go over well until he started fining businesses for not requiring masks. Every B&M put up signs that they were required to mandate masks and to not enter their property without one. Now that rules have loosened a bit, more people are going maskless but each business owner can still stand behind the law to enforce it.

    I think this is one of those political hot potatoes - somebody is always going to be against whatever rules are passed.
     
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    Though Fauci is the figurehead here in the US, in fact many others conspired to pull this off, and as Martin's work shows, the efforts began a long time ago. Klaus Schwab of WEF is a big player, but there are many, including Bill Gates, Tedros and others.

    Martin gives Ralph Baric of UNC Chapel Hill the benefit of the doubt, and that may be appropriate.
     
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    So, you think this is a mass operation for depopulation? What are they conspiring to do?
     
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    I think that is part of the agenda, only because of the many statements made by Bill Gates and others regarding the need to slow down the population growth of the human species.

    To be blunt, I strongly agree that this planet is overpopulated with humans, but I do not support any efforts to limit population growth.
     
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    I finally managed to get an appointment, by getting up at 6:30, and not touching it, I found out that by another news site that explained it, because until the thing starts recycling the page doesn't say don't touch it, and their Pharmacy website flat out says that you CANNOT get the vaccine by calling or visiting them. So my last surviving elderly Aunt who has no Internet is fracked to hell, and someone younger I know, that has never had the Internet, is fracked too. Another person I know hasn't got an appointment yet because they can't sit around for 30 minutes in the morning waiting for the site to recycle multiple times. Seriously funny, the site only asks if you work at a school...after you sit there for thirty minutes several days in the early morning, over and over, to get the book appointment button.

    So until the Fecal Encephalitic MORONS at...fix it...

    Must have the sign of the beast to work, and buy and sell, that will go over well with all the potential never ending mutations of the Satan Bug. I thought masks and fracking soap on our grubby paws worked, so why do we need a passport?
     
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    No, you just encourage people to skip vaccination. Well done!
     
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    I had had to try a number times to get the appointment for me and a friend, but not being a morning person, I did my tries were after 8 PM while watching TV.

    It took about 6 days over 2 weeks to hook it up. The relief was worth it.

    I was noticing that it seemed every notable people who said negative comments about the virus had all been vaccinated from their wealth and fame "connections". Who Woulda Thunk It? :roll:
     
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    If businesses want to have them and create them, then that is their prerogative. People can choose whether or not to patronize the businesses. If government mandates it then that is unacceptable. It is an authoritarian attack on freedom and privacy.
     
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    Yesterday I rode my motorcycle to the place where I need to get it just to check it out beforehand. I saw some girl with a really long ponytail all wrapped up on an adventure bike almost get creamed by a truck that took her lane, she did a nice swerve though, and she was wearing full face helmet and gear, so couldn't tell if she was cute; no amount of money or connections are going to save the Harley guys I saw with the bare melons. We still have to worry about the potential mutations from those that think nature protects them better than a mask...
     
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    The Governor mentioned participation in "normal society". Currently, society is not "normal", if "normal" refers to pre-covid times.
    Whatever one thinks about the present situation and how we got here, it is not realistic to insist on an undefined normalcy.
     
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    Normalcy is both a subjective judgment and a consensus, isn't it?
     
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    We can observe a situation and compare it historically to arrive at some idea of "normal", but that is not disagreeing with what you express. You are correct in my mind.
     
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    Fauci has said vaccine passports won't be part of a Federal initiative.

     
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    Wow, the irony of you making such a post is mind blowing
     
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    Talk to any nurse that has dealt with the COVID patients over the past year and you will find out it is not a garden variety virus.

    My wife is a critical care nurse with a decade of experience and she has never seen anything that took people from "ok" to "near death" as quickly and efficiently as COVID-19.

    Look up COVID delirium and then tell me garden variety viruses have that effect.

    The Conspiracy Theory nuts are just that, nuts. The amount of people that would have to have first hand knowledge of this to make it happen, the length of time they would have had to be planning it all point to the fact that there is no way in hell they could keep it a secret. Not to mention counties that are hostile to each other going along with the ruse just for some stupid theory like population control.

    Believing the earth is flat is far more logical than the plandemic theory.
     
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    You misread my post, I believe.

    My point is that it must not be a garden variety virus as we are seeing with Brazil.

    P.S. I don't think the Earth is flat either. ;-)
     
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    Oh please Darth, enough drama.

    Just one example of many is the America's Frontline Doctors who disagree with your wife.

    They went public many long months ago, pointing out that there are treatments for the disease that have been very successful. It's all documented, but you and your wife would rather not hear about it. That's why AFD and Simone Gold were quickly censored and maligned.

    They and many others showed cases of the efficacy of HCQ and Ivermectin and a few other therapies, but Anthony and the MSM quickly silenced them and called them dirty names.

    It's not rocket science sir--censors censor so that the truth can be hidden.
     
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    HCQ has been proven to be ineffective, even possibly dangerous.
    Ivermectin has been declared ineffective by the WHO.
     
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    Oh boy, you clearly were born without a sense of irony for you to post this.

    Typical flat earth tactics. 100,000 doctors say one thing, 5 say something else so the 5 have to be right and the 100,000 are all lying. Is this really the best you have the FLD? Perhaps they should have been treating patients instead of assaulting the capital building.

    It should be also noted for those reading this thread, the FLD pretty much had ZERO experience treating COVID patients and most were not front line at all.

    They used all those treatments, including HCQ and Ivermectin and many others. What you lack the basic understanding to grasp is that there was no one pill cures everyone with COVID. For some HCQ really helped, for other it made no impact at all.

    The other point you are missing is the very fact that HCQ and Ivermectin and others had to be used is proof positive this was not just some run of the mill virus.

    As for my wife, she is an RN, she takes care of the patients the 23.5 hours the doctor is not in the unit. She spent more time last week with COVID patients than your FLDs have in the last year.

    So you can take your stupid ass CT and shove it back up your ass where you pulled it out of
     
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    Both of them worked for some patients, and not for others.

    This is one of the things that made COVID so hard to treat, what worked for one guy had no impact or made the other guy worse.

    But people like Eleuthera do not care about such things, all they want to do is push their flat earth like CTs.
     
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