Forced Amnesty

Discussion in 'Immigration' started by doniston, Nov 6, 2014.

  1. Liquid Reigns

    Liquid Reigns Banned

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    What I state or say is for others to learn, the only bearing it has on you is pointing out your failed ideals.
     
  2. doniston

    doniston New Member Past Donor

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    -No, you are just half right I do hope he will for reasons Idon't think you can fathum but no, I don't think he should. that's a differnt matter.
     
  3. misterveritis

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    Noted. You are an enemy of the American people.

    We need to get them, and you, out of our country.
     
  4. misterveritis

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    The workable solution is to shut down companies who hire illegal aliens. Deny them housing, work, driving, and welfare.

    They will self deport. But what can we do about people who believe as you do?
     
  5. misterveritis

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    Really? They got here. They can leave. It will help a great deal when our federal government restores the citizen to its first concern.

    We can come to some sort of arrangement. For every illegal that we legalize let's agree to deport on democratic leader, one liberal university professor, or one person who is already on public assistance. One illegal for three people who have screwed up the nation. Deal?
     
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    I never recall seeing any statistics on how many illegals become legal and eventually vote.
     
  7. Lil Mike

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    Since your reasons include a disregard for the law and the constitution, then yes, I agree, I can't fathom them.
     
  8. misterveritis

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    "Really? They got here. They can leave. It will help a great deal when our federal government restores the citizen to its first concern.

    We can come to some sort of arrangement. For every illegal that we legalize let's agree to deport on democratic leader, one liberal university professor, or one person who is already on public assistance. One illegal for three people who have screwed up the nation. Deal?"
    I cannot help what you have or have not seen. What relationship does your statement have to my post?
     
  9. doniston

    doniston New Member Past Donor

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    it is simply your opinion that I have a disregard for the law and constitution, your are wrong on both counts.

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    it is simply your opinion that I have a disregard for the law and constitution, your are wrong on both counts.
     
  10. doniston

    doniston New Member Past Donor

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    The fact that you" believe" I have a dis regard for the law and constitution is smply your opinion and you are wrong, that is simply untrue. I said you couldn't fathom it.you've got your mind made up.
     
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    You and a couple of others took my comments entirely out of context. I would explain, But I really think it is too deep for you.
     
  12. misterveritis

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    Try us.

    I can call your bluff. You have demonstrated no deep thinking so far. Now is your big chance.
     
  13. doniston

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    Obama is threatening to do something, (it is uncler just what) the thinkers have declared he will offer a free ride to th illegals. but he has taken no action. I don'tlike him or what he stands for, But i don't think he is dumb. for yesrs the republcans have thwarted him on the immigration issue, he is threatening. perhaps he is planning to really take action, perhaps it is just a bluff, but were I inhis shoes, I also would bluff. however, I might take some irrelevant action, just to force the issue. I hope he does so, beause something has to give. That is what I "HOPE" he does. However, if he would actually take an action totally against the law, he wouldn't get away with it. so no harm, no foul, but at least it would get the Republicans to take "SOME " action that they haven't taken before. Someone has to get off the dime.

    Satisfied???? LIL MIKE, perhaps instead of being so critical, you shouldhave been "QUESTIONING"
     
  14. misterveritis

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    No. You have a grasp of the democrat talking points. Many do. What portions of the talking points above do you believe indicate deep thought?
    1. Obama is threatening. Granted. And he is likely to act in ways detrimental to the citizens of the US. I believe he is waging war against us. He is an unlawful enemy combatant.
    2. You would do as he does. That is because you are a tyrant wannabe. He is a real tyrant. Both of you deserve to have a Hellfire missile fired up your asses.
    3. No harm no foul? This is the kind of statement a useful idiot might make. You are a dangerous predator, in my opinion.
     
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    Since they are mine, the answer is obvious, ALL OF THEM.

    1.. You agree he was threatening, not doing, Don't you believe a good bluff is a reasonable diplomatic ploy?

    2. Yep, I would bluff,(which is what I referred to. I wouldn't do what you think he will do. Would you?

    Did you perhaps growup with Miein Kampf in your crib? or in the alternative, perhaps with the Israeli mineset?

    Like I said, if he tries somthing illegal and gets caught , He is blamed and pays the price, not the country, You are still hanging on to the absolutely false Idea that I Want him to do what you "THINK" (repeat)" THINK" he is planning. not what he has done.

    BTW, thanks for the good wishes, the same to you.

    Perhaps Lil Mike has had the good sense to drop it.
     
  16. Lil Mike

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    I can see that I was correct to be critical. I realize that you think you have set off a logic bomb in my head, BOOM! and I should be swaying and disoriented from the explosion of truthiness, but all you did was restate what you've already said in this thread.

    -No, the President isn't dumb, but it's not relevant to this issue

    -Only a minority of Republicans are trying to thwart him, most of them are actually in favor of this stupid idea (or they were before the election).

    -Maybe it's a "bluff" but who is he bluffing? By threatening to do it he sabotaged any chance of working with the Republicans on this issue.

    -If he does it, how exactly would he not get away with it?

    -The President could have got off the dime in 2009 & 10 when he controlled both Houses of Congress. Obviously he didn't want to do it with just Democratic votes. Maybe it's not as popular as everyone is telling me...?
     
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    No, not a logic bomb, that would be too much to ask, but maybe a reality bomb

    If you believe what you are saying, then you need to learn to read. I do not and did not want him to do what you think he is going to do. That is your firtile immagination. I wanted him to bluff. That is also what I would have done in his place.----- and who? how about the leaders of either house in the new upcoming congress.

    Added: how would he not get away with it? the Congresses have some punch which apparently you don't think they have, and there is the supreme court, and impeachment.
     
  18. Lil Mike

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    If ever the United States had a President more or less immune to impeachment, it's Obama. I don't see that he would lose any sleep over that. In fact, if I were in his shoes, I would love to have the Republicans enter a bill of impeachment in the House.

    Congress does have some punch, but they've taken a swing and a miss before. So I'm not sure they could land one on the President. It's not House of Cards they're playing there, it's Go Fish.

    If you think this is all an elaborate bluff then OK. For all I know, maybe it is, but I don't see how it would bring House and Senate leadership working with the President on this issue when it makes him look like an untrustworthy and double dealing partner. You can't make an agreement if you think the other party is going to do what he wants by executive fiat anyway.
     
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    all he can legally do is suspend their deportation till he leaves office.

    once January 21st, 2017 comes along, they may all be deported.
     
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    Why do you want these people to stay?
     
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    its not "amnesty" if they can still be deported after 2 years.
     
  22. doniston

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    `````let's be realistic, the problem has beern around since long before Reagan and the powers that be have really done nothing, and when Obama leaves off ice, If his fluff is carried out, there will still be no end to the problem and If they aren't deported now, THEY NEVER WILL BE. In my opinion there is a better answer, but for all of the illegals, not justthe ones he is targeting
     
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    I think our immigration policy is wrong.
     
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    Do you think we don't have enough taxi drivers?
     
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    I am quite serious your post doesn't cut it
     

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