Former CIA Analyst Speaks Out on Partisan CIA “Whistleblower” – Says It Is Likely He Had “Lots of He

But a family could live a good life with just a single wage earner, almost exclusively a man. Now, unless a family is independently wealthy, both husband and wife must usually work. That has strongly affected the middle class.

 

I've noticed that almost every day.

 

Which liberal jews within the Democratic Party? If it's no secret, why has nobody heard of it or any evidence that this is true?The neoconservative moment was formed in the bosom of radical Jewish right-wingers within the Reagan and later Bush administrations.

Unless you can prove otherwise...........

The new left has nothing to do with neo-conservatism though which is what we were discussing.

That being said, I read some of your the article you had linked to. Before that I went to sourcewatch and typed in Claremont.org and of course it is a right-wing think organization with an extreme right-wing bias so yes, it is going to ridicule the "New Left" and try to discredit them.

But that doesn't mean I'm going to discount the argument in entirety. There was lots to criticize as Hayden pointed out many of those folks abandoned their ideas and later became establishment. At least Hayden for the most part stuck to his principles and remained politically active.

That being said, there was a lot to criticize in what was happening in America at the time on the right in terms of civil rights, the Vietnam war and the oppression of progressive ideas by the establishment. The man argument seems to be that it was Utopian as described by this quote in your cite:

Hayden actually went on into politics and teaching and was very influential in articulating ideas that not only suggested the Great Society but as alluded some of the hope for change Obama was promoting which unfortunately turned out to be just lip service. If these ideas are to be attacked for being Utopian then so be it. I don't thing it is wrong to criticize the dystopian and dangerous political reality we have today or to suggest alternatives. The reality we have today is a direct result of the orchestrated attack on progressive thinkers that began in the late seventies and continues today as an attempt to keep America as the corporate oligarchy it is today. Trump is a direct consequence of 4 decades of right-wing attacks and has led to the corporate oligarchy and permanent war economy we have today.

What's wrong with hope?

I don't understand how this is relevant to a discussion of neo-conservatism. Hillary was a traitor to progressivism as was Bill. I don't support what either of them became either in the Arkansas days or in Federal politics.

 

The Dems went to great lengths attempting to frame the President with some sort of Russian conspiracy.....is anyone surprised they'd go to great lenghs drastically a debunked report to try and get him impeached?

 

Where to start ?

There are scores of sources with the history of neoconservatism. "google it"

The "New Left" was the reason why the neoconservatives left the Democratic party and came under the GOP tent.

One of the last neoconservatives to flee from the Democratic party was Dr. Jean Kirkpatrick.

Jeane Kirkpatrick



Who remembers her "Blame America First" speech at the Republican National Convention in 1984 ?

20 August 1984, Republcan Party Convention, Dallas, Texas, USA

 

Interesting. Good job supporting your case. I certainly will google some other sources.

Don't have time today but I will also re-read Kirkpatrick's speech and provide my own rebuttal seeing you took the trouble to post it.

Kirkpatrick was one of those figures I despised back in the day. She is wrong on so much of what she tried to say in this speech and I'll try to articulate later. I honestly didn't realize that the early neo-cons were reactionary to the excesses of the counterculture which certainly one is able to criticize. I think many of the radicals of the day were naive to how brutal and dictatorial the Soviet Union really was. Just as I think many conservatives today are naive about the brutal and dictatorial regimes the US has supported in it's never-ending war with communism or even progressivism. I'm going to post Henry Wallace's "Common Man" speech one of these days for counter to the neo-McCarthyism Kirkpatrick is wading into here.

I first picked up the danger of the neo-cons during the Reagan admin and the results of the PNAC which would be put into action during the Bush II regime starting in Iraq. I guess that is why I missed the early origins.

Still, I asked you for evidence to support your argument and I ended up with some good information out of it. Kudos

 

Unfortunately, that is all this is. A pay back and they will stop at nothing until they get it. Dam the law and facts if it gets in their way.

 

The phrase "neocon" was coined by the "New Left" and other liberals with in the Democratic party.
The word neoconservatism didn't really started being used until after the Cold War.
Real conservatives and neoconservatives were just lumped all together during the 1980's.

Notice when Jean Kirkpatrick used the phrase "San Francisco Democrats" ?
Who would those San Francisco Democrats be today ?

Usually I try not to use Wikipedia as a source when it comes to politics or history since Wikipedia adopted cultural-marxism revisionist history about eight or nine years ago. Yep, under PC revisionist history the Philippine Insurrection is no more.