former Yazidi sex slave: "I saw my ISIS captor and rapist in Canada"

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.thepostmillennial.com/i-saw-my-isis-captor-and-rapist-in-canada-former-yazidi-sex-slave/

    This shows that in this modern world with mass refugee migration, we can't just cardon off and completely separate atrocities in other parts of the world from what happens in our countries.

    I don't know if any of you have read about those horrible things that happened to the Yazidis in Iraq several years ago. Entire cities were taken captive by ISIS, the men lined up and killed while the women and young girls were taken as sex slaves and forced into perpetual rape.
    (more on that here: Syrian and Iraqi girls shipped naked after being sold at ISIL slave bazaars )

    Well one of those former Yazidi sex slaves who later fled to Canada as a refugee claims she saw one of her captors and rapists in Canada.

    Along with the refugees and victims have also come the perpetrators.

    from the article:
    Perhaps the most shocking testimony from the women who survived ISIS was when one ISIS survivor said that she saw her captive and rapist here in Canada. Even more heartbreaking was the fact that when she spoke, she hid behind a few signs so her rapist would not come and find her.​
     
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    the open border bizzaro's won't recognize that as a negative issue
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't see how you'd resolve the problem at the border either way though. Assuming she hasn't misidentified an innocent person, they're not going to have admitted rape when they claimed asylum and that's not the kind of thing the Canadian authorities could have known about. Presumably he otherwise met the requirements for refugee status just as she did. I mean, they can't know for certain any refugee isn't guilty of something they have no information about, even the woman herself. So ultimately, they're left with the option of taking what they do know and applying a little trust, accepting both as refugees or accepting nobody as refugees (certainly no adults or teenagers). Either way, the woman ends up in the same country as her attacker. At least she should be better placed to try to address the issue than she would be in Iraq.
     
  4. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Question: Are we really making these people safer if we bring in the persecutors as well as the victims?
    It's the same people, just a different place. Is that really ultimately going to solve problems in the big picture?
    I don't know, just something to think about.

    Wouldn't it perhaps just make more sense to, I don't know, bring in Canadian police to these Northern Iraqi towns?
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's nothing like as simple as that, which was my point.

    For all it's significance to the victims, rape is just one element of the much wider and complex picture. People will flee these conflict zones, both during and afterwards, for all sorts of different reasons and from all sorts of different backgrounds. Some will only want to stay away short term while others won't want to return. Many will be victims, some will be (perhaps secretly) perpetrators and a whole load will be something in-between. Regardless, there are plenty of reasons why simply getting out of the situation and to somewhere safe and secure is clearly the right thing for many. We couldn't stop it happening even if we wanted to.

    The idea of simply sending in foreign domestic police officers to somehow magically deal with the crimes and atrocities which come with war and conflict is a ridiculous non-starter. There are already international organisations dedicated to that kind of work, with actual training and experience in the field, and even they're extremely limited by circumstance in what they can achieve.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It remain me a jewish proverb "pity to the wicked is cruelty to the good people". The pity canada felt to this man is cruelty to this woman.
     

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