MAGA ARMAGEDDON? The powerful mainstream, Right wing news organization, News Corp, which includes Fox News, The New York Post, and The Wall Street Journal, instrumental in the elections of Bush in 2000, and Trump in 2016, has markedly changed course, with respect to Donald J. Trump. This sets up a most interesting conflict, in Conservative politics: Rupert Murdoch's media empire, versus the bigger than life persona of Trump. How will the other, Right wing news/opinion outlets, line up?-- and make no mistake, there will be no path through this fight, which will allow any, to straddle the fence. Even on Fox, there is a split, in which those personalities with large enough followings, to be immune to any orders from above (from Murdoch, not from God)-- Tucker Carlson, and Sean Hannity-- are still on Trump's side. It really is the Battle of the Titans, that is about to play out. Another big question, is will it end with a splintered political Right, or will those who have been such poor sports, when it comes to moving on, from an election loss, be willing and able to "make nice" with other Conservatives, once all the dust settles. I'm personally inclined to feel that Fox holds the edge, but I admit that there is a natural hesitancy towards writing off Trump. Added on to Trump's disadvantages, though, are growing legal woes, for the ex-President. After my title link (which only shows a couple of NY Post front pages: one that makes fun of "Trumpty Dumpty," and another that goes all in, on Florida's Governor, as the new golden boy, and as "De-Future"), are a couple of informative looks at the fracture's dynamics, on the program of MSNBC's resident lawyer, Ari Melber. In the first, Ari's expert guest gives a very interesting analysis, in which he says that he would bet, not on Murdoch, but on Trump's ally (to date), of Tucker Carlson, because he explains how Tucker has been ahead of the curve, in understanding the MAGA voters. The second clip, shows the awkwardness of some of the Fox hosts, in trying to navigate this transition. What I am curious-- and looking forward-- to hear, are how Republican politicians will try to avoid pissing off Trump, if they want to side with the majority of their voters, who now think Trump is not just too divisive, but too motivating, for not only Democrats, generally, but also for certain groups of Independents (e.g., single women), to come out to oppose. Are they all going to follow Fox's lead, and line up behind DeSantis, even before the Republican Primary? That seems pretty crazy, but is there any room, in MAGA world, for those who want to stay neutral? Past experience would lead me to think that Trump will demand a choice, as proof of others' loyalty. But, for that matter, is it even fair, to blame Trump, for the great disparity of single women, now voting Democratic (this is shown in the third video)? I mean, it seems logical that the moves by many Republicans, to limit reproductive choice, would be the driver of that move. (Though, of course, Trump will not be able to stop himself, on the campaign trail, from taking credit for appointing the Justices, who allowed it all to happen-- even if some of that opportunity, should truly be credited to Mitch McConnell). Also in the second video clip, is an interview with a top member of the Republican Lincoln Project, to get more of an insider view of the Conservative landscape. Lastly, is additional, extended scrutiny of this post midterm split, but mixed in with silliness, in Seth Myers comedic "A Closer Look." It is there, intended only for those on the Left. Righties are certainly welcome to watch; but I can already tell you, you're not going to like it. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...eSantis-gets-plaudits-paper-Fox-midterms.html Murdoch bets against Trump & Tucker **it gets Real (Ari Melber) A Closer Look (Seth Myers)
Prepare to be astounded. Though, in truth, I expect you will only change your beliefs about reality, so that, if it ever surpasses your ability to deny it is occurring, you will merely view the conflict as something you had expected all along, and about which, you'd never issued this sarcastic doubt, above.
Despite being a good President, Trump is a terrible loser and everything he has done since November 9 2020 has massively benefited the Democrats in a deliberate way. As far as I'm concerned he's disqualified going forward. He doesn't have the leverage he once did. Most of the MAGA crowd would turn out for DeSantis anyway.
I don't know that you are right, in your final statement. In my second video source, the results of a poll are given, in which 55% of Republicans, said they thought someone other than Trump, should be the next standard bearer. But the Lincoln Project representative, also said that 30% would be with Trump, no matter what. It might be interesting to compare this to the center-left/far-left friction, in the Democratic Party, which flared in 2016, with the Bernie v. Hillary contest, and the machinations to deny Sanders the nomination. The two sides, there, seem to have learned to live together, though it took some time-- there are those who blame Bernie Bros for tipping things in Trump's direction, in that election. Also, the elephant in the room, so to speak, is the appearance of the less compromising attitude, of those on the Right (at least, with the Left). So I think all the ways this may play out, cannot yet be predicted, and hence, will be an interesting thing to watch.
Your words are their own best refuting argument-- the description of your farcical claim as projection, however, was on the money.
Not really. You people swallowed a poison pill when you allowed trump to grab the repubs by the shorthairs and now the fatal consequences are becoming evident. It will be fun to watch trump try to destroy the repubs.
Not nearly as fun as watching this administration desperately scramble for excuses for their next two years of failures. I bet Trump will find it pretty entertaining as well
A word of caution, this could be because it's politically expedient but only in the interim. They now want Walker to win to tie/win the senate. As soon as that race is over they will go to the ratings and money. They will be "kissing the ring" again if they lose viewers.
Lol…and you’ll be hanging on to trump’s brain farts and ruining repubs’ chances of getting elected. Way to put a seditious traitor ahead of what’s best for our country.
Do you actually believe these hysterical and hyperbolic opinions that you formulate? You are supporting a guy who could be bested by a turnip as president.
It is ironic that I need point this out to you, since you are one who always likes to tell others, "this thread's not about Trump," even in cases when it's hard to get around that Trump has a relation to it. But this thread, obviously is about Trump (and FOX), and NOT ABOUT BIDEN, whatsoever. It has to do with a power struggle, taking shape within the Republican Party. So please try to be at least a little bit consistent (if you don't expect people to ignore everything you say).
Acutally, Rupert Murdoch, left the trump camp. All of his media companies drilled trump a new hole in his body.
Oh please tell me you're ignoring me. And please make sure you actually do it because so many people that say they do it don't. Do you guys like Fox News now suddenly?
Now this is the debate, I had in mind. So, Surfer Joe, could you elaborate, on how you imagine Trump will "destroy," the Repubs? Do you think that Party might actually split? That seems a bit extreme, to me, at this point, but we have yet to see any of the real fireworks. What about the claim I saw-- somewhere on the forum, I think-- that Trump is prepared to launch a Third Party bid? That would be a guaranteed loser, wouldn't it? But, if he could be successful in founding his own Party, that might be seen as to his advantage (as well as serving his Ego). I am on the fence, on that idea, though of course it is dependent on how things shake out, in the Republican Primaries. What do you think about it? You are mistaken, if you believe the point of this thread, is to predict misfortune for Trump. That said, this GOP turning away from their small handed Savior, comes as a surprise, given the past history, and certainly could be a dire development for Trump. It does seem that such sentiment has been growing among Republican voters, but no GOP leaders, at least in Washington, have had the balls to lead this break. Instead, it is being initiated by a RW Media mogul. This is clearly a major political story, which will have great consequences on not just the 2024 Presidential race, but potentially on our country's political landscape, on the whole. So, if you actually were interested in participating in this discussion, may I take it, from your comment, that you believe that Trump will win out, in the end? Highly doubtful-- WHEN? Interesting: you think this has only to do with Georgia, and so Senate control? It seemed much more of a long term choice, to me. That said, I'll note that, in my 2nd OP video, the Lincoln Project Republican did also float his own theory (which I'd not found convincing), that Murdoch's instinctual desire "to watch a car crash, to watch a fight," would lead him to "elevate Trump again."
They ran an article about how he was basically the kiss of death for candidates that he heavily backed.
