France, Japan, the U.K. and U.S. Send China And North Korea A Tough Message.....

It appears France and the UK have made a showing towards N Korea, along with the US. Now they to will participate in the Exercises, along with more Japanese Ships. Give Lil Kim, Russia, and China something to think about. What say ye?




France’s Mistral amphibious assault carrier docked in Nagasaki, Japan on April 29 in advance of military exercises to be conducted with the U.K., U.S., and Japan. Nagasaki is the closest major Japanese port to South Korea, and coming at a time of tension on the peninsula, the French and U.K. naval presence sends a strong message to both China and North Korea. Japan’s increased naval activity is also welcome support for South Korea, and will decrease diplomatic tension between the two natural allies. The U.K. and French presence shows that NATO, including the U.S., is strongly behind South Korea. The effect of these international allied naval forces is to pressure North Korea to abandon its self-destructive drive for ever more powerful nuclear weapons atop long-range missiles capable of reaching North America.

The naval forces gathering in East Asia is an alliance of democracies making a point against autocracies like North Korea, and its allies, China and Russia. While North Korea is building nuclear weapons and missiles capable of reaching the continental U.S., China is making more complaints about the U.S. Terminal High Altitude Air Defense (THAAD) anti-missile system emplacement in South Korea than it is about North Korea’s offensive buildup. This is a strong indicator that China remains firmly on the side of its ally North Korea in the current crisis.

Russia supports China and North Korea, by calling for de-escalation to the status quo which allows for North Korea to periodically increase its nuclear development without significant consequences. Russia stated that THAAD, which protects South Korea, erodes China’s deterrent. Why does China need a “deterrent” against non-nuclear South Korea? To me it appears more of a threat.

Russia and China’s vague calls for peace and negotiation at this point are far too little, far too late. Trump’s tough approach now has China’s nationalist state-owned media, the Global Times, defending economic sanctions on North Korea.

Trump should keep up the pressure. It worked in Syria, and it will work with North Korea. That is peace through strength.....snip~

https://www.forbes.com/sites/anders...and-north-korea-a-tough-message/#5a93e4f96032

 

Good opportunity to remind, that at least two of these Mistrals are ours and nagg around about the broken deal.

But if jokes aside - our message is simple - no war near our borders, especially no war with nuclear weapons. Millions of our citizens would be endangered in case of such war, and that is not to be allowed. A fair and simple message, that must have been given regardless of government's opinion - otherwise this government would've been torn in pieces by angry mob of people who have no desire to play role of 'collateral damage' in war of foreigners.

 

Typical of the UK and France. Always still emphasising their long gone importance.

 

Of course, Japans Navy who is larger than Brits also has joined in. While keeping tabs on any Russian ships thinking they have some play.

 

As if you make the rules, lol..

 

Well, you are welcome to explain yourself.

 

Anything that happens on our border includes us. So yes, our military matters, and I sincerely hope that whatever projectile may fly eveb slightly in direction of our border would be exploded into bits in the air before it even gets close - be it from land or sea, be it deliberate strike or accidental misguided ammo.

 

China's nuclear deterrent is deter American attack, not South Korean. Hence they don't like missile shields that reduce the capability of their deterrent forces.

UK have been off Japan the whole time. We are on a big sales drive to sell naval gear to Japan.
If the Mistral is there, that means it's sale to Egypt fell through. They are looking for a buyer for it too.

 

They will be practicing a landing around Guam. The Brits have 2 Helicopters on the French ship. 700 troops will practice the landing.

 

I doubt that part of N Korea will be a priority. Unless Russia tries to engage.

They can play defense all they want.

 

And that is exactly what we do. We defend our border, and lives of citizens in Vladivostok and other cities of Pacific coast and Far East. It is not that complicated to understand.

 

Well Russia should know they aren't any target. Shouldn't be to hard for them to figure out, Right?

 

Does not means Korea may not launch a strike at us. Does not means that there could not be accident and misguided missile. Does not even means we are 100% safe from strike of any participant of that potential war. "Trust - but beware." Such is a proverb of my people, and this is why our army has there force, capable of defending the border. Until crisis resolved - it likely is to stay there.

After all, sanely speaking - there are accidents possible, and people are to be protected. Vladivostok is literally in couple hours on the car away from the North Korea's border, and has more than half of a million people living there - and that's not to mention all the naval traffic, considering it's one of biggest trade ports of Pacific coast. People need to be protected, and to know that they are safe, even in case of the worst possible conflict in North Korea.

And obviously Federation's government opposes that conflict, because if any sort of nuclear explosion actually happens in North Korea - nuclear fallout may reach and contaminate Vladivostok or other parts of Far East. That would be a catastrophy that non there wishes to behold.

 

Come on. Any nuke that goes up in North Korea would be nothing compared to the nuclear waste sites you have in russia. You have lakes there where people would die instantly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Karachay

According to a report by the Washington, D.C.-based Worldwatch Institute on nuclear waste, Karachay is the most polluted place on Earth.[2] The lake accumulated some 4.44 exabecquerels (EBq) of radioactivity over less than 1 square mile of water,[3] including 3.6 EBq of caesium-137 and 0.74 EBq of strontium-90.[1] For comparison, the Chernobyl disaster released from 5 to 12 EBq of radioactivity over thousands of square miles. The sediment of the lake bed is estimated to be composed almost entirely of high level radioactive waste deposits to a depth of roughly 11 feet (3.4 m).

The radiation level in the region near where radioactive effluent is discharged into the lake was 600 röntgens per hour (approximately 6 Sv/h) in 1990, according to the Washington, D.C.-based Natural Resources Defense Council,[4][5] sufficient to give a lethal dose to a human within an hour.

 

Its about time Russia and China acknowledge Lil Kim is a liability to them. Not a security.

 

Do not mistake a nuclear explosion and storage of nuclear waste. Nuclear waste from lake Karachay does not pollutes air, and could not be carried miles by clouds to, then, rain down on inhabited area and give people cancer and radiation poisoning, that would kill them in days.

Area of nuclear waste can be avoided. Cloud of nuclear fallout, carried by wind - can not.

 

From your personal point of view. I tell you that there are measures to be taken, and they are taken. Any additional effect - is a mere bonus or flaw. But as long at there is danger of war at our border - army will stay there, and will stay ready to defend the citizens of Russian Federation.

 

Nukes dont pollute the air. Radiation levels drop back to normal within minutes. Look at Hiroshima. Just 45 minutes after the detonation no radiation could be detected. A nuke creates energy. Energey radiates. Whats bad is particles who keep creating radiation. Those lakes you have there ninian are a time bomb and you know that.

You have some areas in russia you need to find a solution. Right now you just seal it and avoid it but that wont work forever.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fallout#Meteorological

There is chance of heavy contamination, and this is a chance my nation will not be taking.


As for nuclear waste we have on our territory - thank you for mentioning, but we deal with it ourselves. I did not just said that waste from Karachay can't get in the air because it lies there.

This is lake Karachay:


It has been sealed for two years, and is constantly monitored now to make sure, that no outbreak of radiation happens.

 

I can only tell from our perspective. In Germany something like lake karachay would be impossible. People would simply not accept it. We have two main deposists for nuclear waste. Gorleben and the Asse.

Gorleben is a high security vault. Evry peace of nuclear waste is melted into a ton concrete and sunk into an udnergeound vault. In the Asse It was put into cylinders. Few years ago one single cylinder was leaking there. No radiation was set free but people demanded that the Asse is closed down. Billions were spend. All was taken out and then stored in Gorleben.

This is how we store our nuclear waste:



In so called CASTOR cylinders. Each cylinder has 114t weight. It would survive even a crash out of an airplane.

Its crazy what russians accept. You have such super polluted places and in Vladivostok rott your old nuclear subs

 

The submarine itself is not a nuclear waste, and not contaminated. Reactor obviously is not left after vessel is decomissioned.

And yes, we could improve our dangerous waste disposal methods, and I am sure we will. But so far we have what we have. Does not mean we would welcome a cloud of black rain waiting to pour down to soar above our citizens.

 

Wiki says otherwise. Obviously you even have nuclear reactors dumped infront your coast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decommissioning_of_Russian_nuclear-powered_vessels

On 10 August 1985, control rods were incorrectly removed from a Victor class submarine during defueling at Chazma Bay naval yard outside Vladivostok, resulting in an explosion, the "release of large amounts of radioactivity", and ten deaths.[3] In addition to this Victor, five other submarines have damaged cores preventing their defueling by normal methods.[3]

A Russian government report acknowledged in March 1993, that "during the period of 1965 to 1988 the Northern Fleet had dumped four reactor compartments with eight reactors (three containing damaged fuel) in the Abrosimov Gulf in 20 to 40 meters of water."[3]Six other compartments, containing nine reactors in all, had also been dumped into the water in the 1960s and 1970s.[3]

Crazy

 

We have a couple of converted old mines, we use to store waste in the UK.but the current plan is to send it back to Australia. They don't care.
They'll put it back in the same hole they dug it out of.

 

Who said these reactors are still there? Unlike soviet government - ours have to take responsibility for safety of citizens. You keep forgetting, that Union was not exactly equality of RF, and that it had different view on the citizens and the country. And that patience of russians ran out in 1990. And yes, this is crazy to think, that such things been allowed to be happening. At least, according to Internet, our predecessors had decency to fill reactors with some sort of quick-petrifying mixture, based on furfural, to seal the waste.
http://bellona.ru/2002/08/30/zahoronenie-rao-i-oyat-v-moryah/

 

The major concern with this issue, is not Russia.....but Lil Kim and N Korea. The Russians need to quit backing Lil Kim and instead put pressure on him.