France Likely To Close Over 100 Mosques It Says 'Preach Hatred'

Good for them! It's their country. Quite a few yrs ago I read an article about Switzerland cracking down on the mosques that were popping up.

 

The Liberals are mistaken: ISIS doesn't want this. The whole point of a sleeper cell is to commit domestic attacks against the host country(In this case, the US), they're not using these cells to say "Look, see how the "Great Satan" is treating us Muslims." They ALREADY do that. Trust me, it's already a part of their propaganda toolbox to convert the young, outraged Middle Eastern youth to terrorism.

And there's nothing we can do about it, like RiseAgainst said. Nothing short of accepting "Sharia Law" that is. The terrorist brigades are always gonna call us evil, sorry. In part, it's also psychological. What we've learned from human history and human psychology is that humans can easily define right from wrong. Even a serial killer knows it's wrong to take a life. So how do they justify it? They deflect it, or sometimes(in the case of Radical Islam) they point to their own justified superiority(that of Muhammad) to escape their own guilt.

If we engaged in psychological warfare, more Muslims than not rejecting Radical Islam would be the ideal. It would take away from(or at least downplay) their superiority belief system and get less of them involved in Terrorism. Which is why its very unfortunate that the so-called "True Islam" has not taken a stance. Has not prevented this outgrowth which supposedly defiles "True Islam".

So that path of psychological warfare is closed to us. No matter how many times Obama or Clinton wants to preach "hearts and minds", it simply will not work against an ingrained regime that has lasted for thousands of years and gives you a little cover(like a blindfold) so they can stab you in the back later on.

We have to finally accept "their" terms and if it gives them a "moral victory" who cares, I want real victories. That term being "us or them" and I choose us, every time. The U.S is morally superior, we've done more for the world then Islam can ever conceive. If the Islamic States ended up falling on themselves(which they might anyway, all violent regimes fall to anarchy and then ruin), the world will actually celebrate.

But if the U.S were to fall? The world would regress significantly. Who would take the lead? We've held Japan back and now they're catching up behind the proverbial 8-ball. You have to give Japan at least two decades to enter this conversation. So, whose up for Chinese or Russian Oppression? Nobody? Yeah, I thought so.

Given our own moral superiority, and our righteousness to remain the world superpower, we can do damn well what we please(within human morality) and if that means sending every converted Muslim back over the Middle East, it's not the worst thing in the world. Only Liberals, clinging to delusions of grandeur that we can "co-exist" think that it's a bad thing. Frankly, it's the only way the country can survive.

Either you're with your so-called "faith" or you're a part of the Secular US. Which one?

 

shoudl we close down mosques and churches here that preach hate?

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I don't know about the mosques, but Loretta Lynch would close down the churches if they bad mouthed Muslims.

 

she could not close down either, church have a history of talking hate, it's a constitutional right

 

According to this its not even protected by the 1st amendment

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=435410&page=3&p=1065619555#top'

Its a second class religion at best

 

Only the ones that kill innocent Americans in the name of their god!

 

Europe, Death by suicide...

 

Those on the left call most anything hate speech. Mentioning the bible calls sex out of wed lock is hate speech these days as thats its objection to gays having intercourse with each other. If your against more gun laws your a supporter of mass shootings. If you dont like Obamacare you want people to die for lack of healthcare. If you think food stamps need to be cut you want people to starve. Conservatives hate the world and everyone in it.

 

Hey France... give the people guns.

 

There is no human right nor civil right to preach violence.

sorry.

 

Wow, a serious topic like terrorism and libs can't help but push their political agenda.

 

shut down any institution, religioius or secular, that preaches violence against civilians.

I am a Liberal Democrat.

 

So the progressive solution is to allow mosques that openly preach hatred and terrorism to remain open. Got it.

 

as a Liberal Democrat, who voted for Obama twice and always supports Liberals, I dont give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) what ISIS wants.

no institution has any damn right to preach violence against civilians.

if we find such an institution, we should shut them down immediately and monitor their leaders and members for a good year to make sure they aren't going to stage an attack.

if they are immigrants, they should be deported.

Freedom of Speech, Religion, and Assembly is not limitless nor is it a suicide pact.

 

I am not the one talking about closing down religious institutions in the USA because they preach hate, if it applies to one it has to apply to all

 

well if they did that, no new laws needed as that is already illegal... you just have to show they killed people

but you have to be careful, just cause a killer goes to a church, doesn't mean the church is guilty

"South Carolina Lutheran Pastor: Dylann Roof Was Church Member, His Family Prays For Victims"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/19/dylann-roof-religion-church-lutheran_n_7623990.html

""He was on the roll of our congregation," Rev. Tony Metze of St. Paul's Lutheran Church, told The Huffington Post."

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Well, seems there are plenty of laws on the books against killing innocent people here, so with your thinking we should need anymore gun laws!

 

I think we need less gun laws, I think it's a right and not a privilege to own a gun for everyone.... even ex-felons that have paid back their debt to society, that is the way rights work

to me it's what you do with the gun that can be outlawed, example, killing someone with a gun is the same as killing someone with a knife, it's the killing that is the crime, not the owning a gun or knife

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My God FreshAir, you and I found some common ground!

 

That's a good point. Closing down 100 mosques will ultimately do nothing, especially when there are nearly 3,000 other mosques operating in the country.

 

Well said.

 

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I have no problem with closing mosques, churches, temples, edifices or organizations that preach hatred, violence and social intolerance towards the citizens of any sovereign nation.

 

I think if we left it at "preaches violence" we could get more to agree, adding in preaching hate and social intolerance, well, that would get some blow back

 

I think there's hope for you yet Ron.