Free men own guns, slaves dont.

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  1. Felix (R)

    Felix (R) New Member

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    I never said that was included in the post, I said ''this is the same person who......'' andWent onto describe the type of person you were so happily in agreement with.
     
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    Felix (R) New Member

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    In your shoebox of a world you seem to occupy TV is probably the only way to recieve information about the world. Others like myself may take advantage of newspapers, radio, magazine subcriptions, books, other people, and even the biggest one, the internet. I do not need TV to tell me. Why is this such an issue for you?
     
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    And you avoid a post and accuse me of avoidance.
     
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    More hollow tripe, I'm afraid. You stated that "the founders don't agree with you", now you refuse to substantiate it.

    Fairly predictable.
     
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    Felix (R) New Member

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    Anybody who is familiar with their profound and glorious words know What I am talking about. It doesnt matter to me that you do not.
     
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    I don't know exactly whom you think you're fooling, with this nonsense. My response was in two parts and you chose to only respond to one. I suppose I'll have to assume that you acquiesce to the part you could not answer.

    As to the weak response you DID give, it's almost laughable. YOU had claimed that you "debunked" the other member's post, remember? Be honest now and admit it. You even admitted that you don't use the term lightly, which is ironic because you still haven't been able to substantiate this claim. I hope you're not trying to gain any credibility here because this certainly isn't the best way to do that.

    Quit squirming and man up. You didn't claim that you had smeared another poster with false accusations, nope, you claimed that you had "debunked" his particular post. I suggest that you quit while you're behind, because you're beginning to look foolish.
     
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    Sorry, Felix, but free men can own guns and slaves generally can't. Free men don't necessarily own guns. You're thinking of frightened little free men.
     
  8. Felix (R)

    Felix (R) New Member

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    Do you know how many things you have ignored? Lots. I have pointed out the stupidy of the post in question, there is much more gun control being promoted today than the promotion of gun ownership. I have very widespread and diverse sources. Corporations are not brainwashing people fromchildhood and making kids think that the only way to become an adult is to have a big ''killing machine''. If you think otherwise I dont know what to tell you, would you Like to do a poll?
     
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    Oh ok. Thank you for the excellent clarification.
     
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    It's isn't fear the inspires a man to bear arms, but duty. It's the right and duty of every American to know how to protect themselves.
     
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    Three reasons:

    1) The medium was included in the other poster's post in question, AND it is a medium that you admit not to watch.

    2) It happens to be a medium that a large percentage of Americans get their news from and it happens to be a medium that the average American admits to watching over 5 hours of television per day.http://articles.cnn.com/2009-02-24/...-spokesman-gary-holmes-watching?_s=PM:SHOWBIZ

    The average child will watch 8,000 murders on TV before finishing elementary school. By age eighteen, the average American has seen 200,000 acts of violence on TV, including 40,000 murders. http://www.csun.edu/science/health/docs/tv&health.html

    3) Television happens to be a medium that portrays gun ownership as an end-all-be-all. It is often portrayed as the means to the end in which it is the final solution to a wide range of problems. But then, of course, you wouldn't have known this.


    Therefor, when you made the ill-informed comment that "There is not a higher degree of gun promotion than that which opposes guns", then you yourself have unwittingly brought TV into the debate, like it or not.

    NOW you get it? You can respond with a logical counter, OR you can do as you have done so far and instead offer me irrelevant observations. I suspect it will be the later.
     
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    Excellent post good brother.
     
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    You'll need to be more specific than that, Peter Rabbit, to be taken seriously.
     
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    Yup, just as I thought. Very predictable.
     
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    Its not unwittingly bringing TV into the debate, if you bring something up to support your claim it doesnt mean I lack wits. You bring up an interesting perspective for once. I will consider what you have said, however I do not think murders are reported on the news because corporations want people to buy guns, is this what you are saying?
    The world is a dangerous one, even before the advent of firearms. Unfortunate events were always something which gained a great deal of attention.
     
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    You like those ears, the girls say im sexy when I wear them.
     
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    Another empty accusation. Yawn. What a surprise.




    Oh, I see. You called it "stupid", so it MUST be so.

    My how easy! I must try that!





    Once again, your "sources" cannot be "widespread and diverse" if you do not observe the medium that Americans watch Five Hours a day.... Simple.

    Fail.



    So........ How about addressing the salient points in my post that effectively debunked your "debunking"? So far, you haven't offered us anything other than your own limited world views on this. Hardly a "debunking" by ANY measure, I'd say.
     
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    Ha. Perhaps you should review what "unwittingly" means. It has nothing to do with whether or not you have "wits" or not. Sorry.



    Of course not. I'm surprised you would ask this.

    If this is all you got out of my post then I have serious doubts about you.
     
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    In other words, then you can't substantiate any of that last accusation? AGAIN?
     
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    Felix (R) New Member

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    It wasnt an empty accusation, it is something that anyone with a little bit of sense can observe.


    I do not need to watch TV to have diverse sources. To you its a tool to brainwash anyway so why would you now consider it an informative source.
     
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    Ha, I can practically see you marching around your living room waving a flag.

    Self protection does NOT begin and end with a gun, friend. I suspect that you have a "duty" to country confused with a "duty" to family. Not the same thing, but nice try though.
     
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    No, it IS an "empty" accusation when you can't post any substantiations to them. You know,... like YOU were't able to do.



    I didn't say you did, however when you claimed, as you did, that you are aware of something on a medium That Americans watch five hours a day at, then you clearly do not know what you're talking about.

    You're just blowing smoke, friend. Give it up.
     
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    I have done just so, any fair minded person would agree with me.


    Give what up? Theres nothing to lose. You accuse me of ignoring you on certain things when you clearly have a history on this thread of isolating small portions of posts and responding as you see fit.
     
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    go live in a different country and see how many guns you get.
     
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    Not sure why you have to reduce every point to a Personal Attack.

    Whatever floats your boat, Dact.
    Did I say it did? But it is necessary to secure a free State.
    My family lives in my country. Nice try.
     

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