Free Speech: Is It Fine to Say Something Offensive?

That's exactly why progressives have to shut up conservative speakers.

Their ideology can't exist under scrutiny, which is why the progressive hive minds don't want their drones engaging in logical discussion.

It's also the reason they've been brainwashed to use critical theory instead of the socratic method of debate. They don't have factual debate points so they rely on emotion. Mostly anger.

What happens when leftists engage in thoughtful debate? They get red pilled.

 

Freedom of speech is all about speaking truth to power without censure.

Today, though, millions of incoherent quarterwits think freedom of speech is all about expressing bigoted views.

It's easy to spot, they go after the weak not the powerful.

 

Perhaps incoherent quarterwits should use a dictionary.

free·dom of speech
noun
noun: freedom of speech; plural noun: freedom of speeches; noun: free speech; plural noun: free speeches

1. the right to express any opinions without censorship or restraint.

 

Straight to the bottom of the barrel, eh.

"I yam allowed to bee a bigoter!!!!"

Yep.

 

Yes, you are allowed to be a bigot, a racist, or anything else you want to be.

That's what freedom of speech is.

People don't get to decide what is or is not acceptable for other people to say.

This is why progressivism is a disease. The ideology cannot exist in the light of reason and open debate.

 

It's good to see you admit bigotry is acceptable.

Loved, really.

 

The first of your two sentences is true. The second is not.

I have zero control over whether or not someone is offended by what I think, say, or do. However, I do have control over what my intentions are vis-a-vis what I think, say, or do. The legal system is called on to walk the fine line, as that is where the right of free speech conflicts with other rights which are just as valid.

Sovereign nations have the right to make the rules under which they operate. That is in fact the very definition of the word sovereign.

 

The progressive ideology is far more vile and dangerous than any bigot.

 

Daimon, I agree with your premises in regard to "Hate Speech", censorship, and the right (unalienable) to speak your peace (what brings comfort to you). In these United States, "Free Speech" is often misused, abused and ill-defined, due to political pandering and usage from all sides of the political spectrum. As far as I am concerned, "Free Speech" is the unalienable right to state whatever a person deems necessary, even if said person threatens the use of violence within the course of his or her speech. Words, while they do cause damage, are ineffectual to a person who has confidence in who they are and what they promote. If the threat of violence is unfulfilled, the cautionary speech is ineffectual, if violence promoted in said speech is enacted, than it is up to the person or group to respond, sans government. When people get into the habit of reactionary behavior(s) because of words, than said people then become social-tyrants and social-despots. It has been said that those who signed the Declaration of Independence and fashioned the Constitution for the United States of [North] America, during the Constitutional Convention, debated all subjects mentioned in the said Constitution which can be read in the Federalist and anti-Federalist Papers. In regard to "Free speech" it was established as a cornerstone of a free society, in the absence of "Free Speech", tyranny is bound to be established and all Freedom is eventually lost. As an example, look at what is "America today. In essence, if people would learn to become mature adults, instead of juvenile in thinking, then maybe they will see the broader perspective of what it means to be a Free Person?

What will, and is already formulating in this country is despotism under, as you said, "The Greater Good".
As an aside:
Imagine that, a Black Man who is Muslim agreeing with one who may or may not be Black and/or Muslim, on the fundamental principles of Free Speech! Stranger situations have occurred. Strange Bedfellows, not literally, but figuratively.

 

Free speech to include hate speech does not inflict with other people's rights

 

Someone who insists on expressing themselves in offensive ways? Sorry, that is not an absolute right. Besides being inappropriate and rude, it may in fact be illegal. Depends on context. (Screaming "fire" in a crowded theater is not protected speech, and is therefore inappropriate unless there actually is a fire. Same goes for certain offensive forms of expression. If you believe a right to be absolute, you'd be wrong...).

 

That's right, but that's not what's being done.

You'll notice violent protests and blocking people from speaking at, ironically enough, colleges is the issue.

Again, the reason progressive leftist hive minds don't want people exposed to conservative speech is that the progressive ideology doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

The entire basis of progressive "reasoning" is critical theory, which is an assumption supported by a logical fallacy that then circles back to the assumption.

Critical theory does not survive actual analysis based on the socratic method.

THAT is the reason they want it violently shut down.

 

Yes it is a right and not subject to your interpretation.

You are mixing apples and oranges. Inciting violence and threatening others is not legal.

Hate speech and offensive speech yes is protected

 

It IS my right, however, to get right back in their face and be just as hateful and offensive to them. If they can't handle that, it's their problem, and they should stop being such whiny little snowflakes. Reciprocity - it is a bitch...

 

If hate speech is shown to be inciting violence or is threatening, it is not legal. There is a line that should not be crossed. You said it yourself.

 

No, what you're describing by getting in someone's face and yelling at them is the legal definition of assault.

You do not have to touch someone to assault them.

Again, you're trying to justify violence because what someone says or does disturbs you.

 

It depends on the place mostly. You can be removed from a school for screaming curses or hate speech

 

If that were true, Herr Drumpenfuhrer wouldn't have any audience left. They'd all be in jail.

Practically demonstrable fail on your part...

 

where did he/she say it was 'acceptable'?

it's not about whether you or I personally find something acceptable, it's about ensuring we never go down the road of authoritarianism which ANY curtailment of freedom of speech leads us to.

 

That has always been true. Schools have different standards for behaviour than the adult world.

 

Who decides where that line is?

 

Many places like that. Public parks, courthouses, airports...etc

 

Why would you resort to the hackneyed "you can't yell FIRE in a crowded theatre" as your example? That has nothing whatsoever to do with 'expressing yourself in offensive ways'. Offensive to whom? I'm 'offended' when people laugh at their own jokes .. should no one therefore have an absolute right to laugh at their own jokes? What you suggest here is patently absurd. OF COURSE our right to be offensive is absolute, because offence is taken, not given - even when it is.

 

These are bad examples, also. We all understand that rules apply to vocalisations in such places. Unfortunately, the new laws now starting to be ratified (in Canada and elsewhere), will mean open 'heresy' will be punished wherever it's heard.