Free speech

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  1. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't take a genius to see our freedom and rights are being taken away and eroded with every passing year. Soon they will introduce public flogging again, and the sheep will continue to BAR BAR BAR.
     
  2. Friend Of None

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    I never said they were the only culture. Pay attention.

    What are you talking about? White Australians are already the dominant culture. If we still lived in England, were thrown off our lands and had our cultural heritage almost destroyed then, yeah, it's incredibly likely that the people would want some sort of recognition.

    Yeah! We decimated them but because we didn't wipe them out altogether they should be eternally grateful to us! You are obviously a highly moral. sensitive and extremely compassionate human being.

    :roflol:

    And yet we have just established that you have no idea what you are talking about....

    Old people are so funny.
     
  3. Friend Of None

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    .......

    No, because it isn't illegal to offend someone. You just made that up. It would be draconian if it was an excessively harsh law but it isn't. The only person who has been pulled up by it is Andrew Bolt, an extremely influential figure in the media, and his punishment in no way could be called draconian.

    Lets use language that actually reflects the legislation.
     
  4. aussiefree2ride

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    Offensive behaviour because of race, colour or national or ethnic origin
    (1) It is unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if:

    (a) the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people; and

    (b) the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person or of some or all of the people in the group.
     
  5. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    Form my perspective saving a species from extinction is a big deal, and warrants respect and gratitude, but only you and some Aboriginals don't have the intellect to recognise that fact.
     
  6. Friend Of None

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    So I guess the cops are going to be showing up at my door any second now for offending culldav, despite the fact that it wasn't for his race, colour or ethnic origin?

    No, they aren't. People aren't being arrested left, right and center for offending others. People aren't being arrested at all. The law isn't draconian. Deal with it. Move on.
     
  7. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    The only reasons court action was taken against Bolt, was because of financial benefit, and he was opening up people's eyes to the con-jobs. They are scared of people learing the truth.
     
  8. Friend Of None

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    :roflol:

    Again you missed the point entirely. Not to mention you simply avoided responding to my other points, which I'm presuming is because you can't. Failure to respond can only be taken as tacit admission of defeat.

    Actually, this guy is most likely a troll. I find it hard to believe anyone is this stupid.
     
  9. Friend Of None

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    Let me guess - you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support this idea?

    Interesting.
     
  10. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    I feel sorry for someone as immature as you - good luck with it all.
     
  11. aussiefree2ride

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    You aren`t making any sense. You got the "offend" angle wrong, now you wander off on another completely useless tangent. The number of arrests, or your satisfaction in the law being used against someone you are prejudiced against, is completely irrelevant. Common sense dictates that draconian laws should be abolished.

    small children can be amusing
     
  12. culldav

    culldav Well-Known Member

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    I just wacked that stupid thing "Friends of none" of the ignore list, I'm not wasting my time on that immature non sense. I'm saying "she"" because the responses sounded like a very sad immature girl.
     
  13. Friend Of None

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    What? I think you are getting confused. You claimed that the law was draconian, which implies it is excessively harsh. I pointed out that you can still go out in public, offend someone and not be arrested. You can even go out and be a racist and not be arrested. It happens all the time. Thus the law in no way can be said to be draconian.

    You previously stated that the law made it illegal to offend someone, however, that is not true. It makes it illegal to offend certain people under certain circumstances. It doesn't make offending people illegal in general, which is what your post sounded like when coupled with the word draconian.
     
  14. Friend Of None

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    So you are the one who avoids the discussion, resorts to puerile insults, puts me on ignore because you don't like what I've got to say and in your little fantasy world I'm the immature one?

    :roflol:

    Yep, this guy is a genius.
     
  15. Friend Of None

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    Settle down, mate. You've derailed this thread enough with your antics.
     
  16. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    You have nothing. Your argument is becoming more convoluted, and ridiculous with each character you type. Nothing condemns like a feeble defence. You lose.
     
  17. Friend Of None

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    If my argument is so weak then why are you running away from addressing it?
     
  18. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Your argument, is silly, and tediously immature.
     
  19. Friend Of None

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    And your argument is non-existent. Put up or shut up. Failure to put up can only be taken as tacit admission that you can't.

    It's really very simple.
     
  20. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    As you have just expertly demonstrated. You have nothing so you attack the writer
     
  21. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    After a while he will become like a hemorrhoid, a pain in the ass. Don't worry about him and you can live with it. Pity though that there is no Culldav cream.

    A quick read through previous posts and you will see he knows nearly nothing about nearly everything. He is the epitome of a "Know all know nothing"
     
  22. Blasphemer

    Blasphemer Well-Known Member

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    I never understood how anyone can agree with free speech restrictions. We like to think we are more enlightened than various totalitarian regimes, but really we are not, if laws like that exist on the books in some so called "developed" nations. If you cannot freely speak your mind, you are not a free person, you are a serf, like an obedient child that can be ordered around at will. It is a complete degradation of a human being. And it is just extremely rude, I wouldnt dare to dictate to other people what they can and cannot say, everyone would rightfully tell me to (*)(*)(*)(*) off. How come when it is done through the government somehow it is OK? I feel like one has to be a complete (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) to advocate restricting free speech of other people.

    The only exception I would agree with is persistent, direct, targeted verbal harrassment of a specific person, and even then the "punishment" should be something like a restraining order, no jail.
     
  23. Ziggy Stardust

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    Well, I never said, nor do I believe that the stolen generation should "just suck it up".

    Having children "stolen" by institutions is not unique to Aboriginals in Australia and not a "racial" phenomena.

    Trivial "benefits" and a few jobs for middle class "white" Aboriginals is not compensation for institutionalised racism, it's an extension of it.

    You've just gone and separated "whites" from "Aboriginals", which is highly ironic. No (*)(*)(*)(*) "white" people are discriminated against less than dark skinned people, in Australia. So what's your point?

    Oh don't be naive, there's no such thing as a "level playing field", for anyone.

    Don't tell me a Sudanese refugee is less likely to be discriminated against than a white middle class Aboriginal.

    If there were government benefits or jobs that were only available to "whites", then that would obviously be racist. The difference is, that's actually illegal, just like it's illegal for the government to do that for any race other than "Aboriginal".

    History is full of perfectly "nice" people with "good intentions" doing the most appallingly racist things.

    If you support the governments authority to legislate based on race, then you're just another disgusting racist.
     
  24. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it's about time people put that clown on the ignore list. You argue with a fool......You've got some great posts that don't need to be wasted on simplistic points of view from a troll!
     
  25. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    I like what you say,
    however even a free mind/speech should recognize some sort of etiquette. We are living in a developed country, and for such some standards apply.
    Its like saying *how are you?*, when you meet someone, everything else would be rude (except the other part is a complete (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*), who proofed time and time again, he really is an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)).
    Cheerio
     

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