From Mueller Time to Barr Time

Barr has a $30 million dollar summary of grand jury testimony. WTF does he need transcripts for? Do you think the judge will ask? Ken Starr said here >>> 11 felony recommendations SUPPORTED by jury transcripts. Unless Mueller's report includes felony RECOMMENDATIONS the AG doesn't need transcripts, and neither does congress ... unless they introduce articles of impeachment.

 

You're confused. Barr has grand jury material. It's in Mueller's report. But he is redacting it so Congress can't see it.

As was the case in similar instances in the past, Congress needs to see the material to make an informed decision about impeachment. Barr's refusal to seek the release of grand jury material to Congress is the sticking point between he and Nadler.

I suspect once the redacted report reaches Congress Nadler will issue the subpoena he has for the full report and the battle will be enjoined.

 

Better still IMO. Chances Barr redacts RECOMMENDATIONS Mueller included ... zero. Chances congress finds something to support new charges in the transcripts ... zero.

 

Let's get back to the subject. Barr's refusal to seek the release of the grand jury material. How can you expect Congress to make an informed decision about impeachment without it? Why doesn't Barr want Congress to see what they are entitled to see? We aren't talking about "new" charges. We're talking about Mueller's findings on collusion and obstruction.

 

Reframe it anyway you want. Barr has no obligation or authority to release the transcripts. Congress is going to have to abide by the standards they imposed on disclosure. You and Nadler are screaming at the sky ... again. Barr won't budge and Nadler's acting like an pre pubescent crybully.

 

He can't release them unilaterally, he needs the judge's permission. But how can you say he has no obligation? He is the AG for the citizens of the US......he isn't the prez's defender.........or at least he shouldn't be. The only way this whole matter gets put to rest is if Congress sees all the information they are entitled to see and that includes the grand jury material.

 

News reports have been telling us that people from the Mueller team have been saying that each section of the report has a summary that can easily be released to the public.

At one point in my career I was the custodian of certain classified documents. The Mueller report is said to be a confidential report. That is the lowest level of classified documents. There can be no state secrets in a confidential document.

 

Rut roh, don't look now Shaggy, I tried to tell you...





https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/barr-testify-congress-first-time-mueller-summary-n992286

 

And you are a FRAUD in your patriotism, worse yet, you KNOW you are, and don't care. Sad isn't it?

Especially considering you once probably were genuine, doubly sad, having served as such.

 

Sorry, we're talking about Barr's refusal to seek the judges permission to release the grand jury material.

 

I started reading this thread and about ten posts in I was laughing so hard I jumped to the end. It appears the lefties have their collective noses out of joint because Barr pushed their favorite democrat congress members faces in the mud this morning. Does that pretty well sum it up?

 

It is not like the report is a single document. Mueller, I'm sure has a copy, as do members of his team. By now, I'm sure, Barr has given a peek to McConnell and Trump's lawyers. The Republicans can't prevent Congressional Democrats from asking Mueller and his team to testify before Congress. It will all come out.

That Trump, and the Republican operatives, would work so hard to prevent citizens from seeing the report, tells us that there is a whole lot of dirt that Republicans don't want citizens to see. Which makes their overblown displays of indignation, all the more curious.

 

I guess in order to be patriotic you have to vote for a woman who rigged the Democrat primaries, and avoided charges of obstruction of justice by deleting emails under subpoena, sent classified emails over an unsecured server and told the public that Benghazi was because of an internet video.

 

That is one of the enduring myths still reverberating around the right wing sound chamber. Like many right wing media promoted myths it has a very long shelf life and is immune to being dropped in view of the facts.

Brazile: I found 'no evidence' Democratic primary was rigged

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/05/donna-brazile-rigged-democrats-clinton-sanders-244566

 

Quick, somebody tell Politico that Brazile, who gave Hillary questions before the primary debate against Bernie Sanders, also wrote a book about Hillary Clinton rigging the primaries.



They'll need to know before they print a retraction to their #FakeNews.

 

You think maybe some dumb #FakeNews journalists will see this post and run with stupid speculation accusing AG Barr of criminal conspiracy?

 

They are calling Barr part of the obstruction, little more than a Trump stooge.

Do you know why journalists have such a low opinion of Trump, and many of the leading Republicans? Most journalists are in the top 10%, intellectually. It only takes a few minutes of listening to Trump to realize that Trump is not.

 

Survey says...

 

Whatever is in the report that's redacted will be more harmful to Democrats than Republicans.

 

I think Nadler's tantrum proves otherwise. The whole matter has been put to rest as far as both special counsel and the DOJ are concerned. Impeachment is Nadler's venue, not the DOJ's. Nadler can subpoena any or all of those who testified before the grand jury. A step Nadler would be forced to take anyway if intended to introduce jury testimony during impeachment. Trump BTW didn't go before the jury, and any WH communications with anyone who did, are available to Nadler. Trump waived exec. privilege.

 

No ... 1 report picked up by several outlets. Unsourced and unspecific allegations ... in typical MSM op-ed style. Good news ... the report will be made public, right on schedule.

 

IDK I wasn't a clinton supporter, just one who knew better than Trump and took my only realistic option,

I'm not the one obsessed with Ms Cllinton, you, the FAILED patriot are, that guy.....

 

For the first time since the end of special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, Attorney General William Barr faced questions on Capitol Hill regarding his handling of Mueller's findings, when he plans to release the report and how he will handle the issue of redacted information.

From a justice point of view, it was not pretty.

The Mueller Report was tasked with finding out if the Trump campaign and/or Trump himself were collaborating with the Russian government concerning their interference in the 2016 Presidential election on Trump's behalf. A fair amount of evidence is known to the public that collaboration did take place.

We know five close associates to Trump are now convicted felons, and each had a connection to the Russian government. These close associates included a campaign manager, deputy campaign manager, a national security advisor, and Trump's personal lawyer. We know Trump's son, son-in-law, and campaign manager met with Russian operatives at Trump's home, Trump Tower. We know from Trump's lawyer that during the entire 2016 Presidential campaign Trump was negotiating with the Russian government for a Trump Tower in Moscow. That is simply a tiny tip of the iceberg as far as the evidence is concerned.

We can gather from that evidence that Trump definitely had a relationship with the Russian government, and his foreign policy indicates that as well.

Thus it is unfortunate, but not a shock, to learn that Barr insists on protecting Trump.

Barr repeatedly refused to answer a direct question as to whether the White House has seen -- or will see -- the full Mueller report prior to its release.

"I don't intend at this stage to send the full unredacted report to the committee," Barr stated. In other words, he wishes to hide portions of the Mueller Report from Congress. Selected members of Congress see the most sensitive intelligence generated by our intell agencies, but, according to Barr, they will not see all of the Mueller Report, only what Barr decides they will see. This in accordance with the four rules Barr himself created.

Barr refused to discuss Trump's alleged obstruction with the committee.

Put a different way, Trump's hit man is doing exactly what he was hired to do.

 

That's why I served in the military, so that people can call veterans "FAILED patriots".

 

So are you are saying that Trump should break the law? Or because Barack Obama got away with everything for eight years you think that any other president can also get away with ignoring any law he wants to ignore? Trump does not have Obama's blanket immunity to any and all consequences for actions taken.