Future Failure - Florida high school students to launch lawsuit over rejection of AP African America

AGAIN…..this is about feelings, and nothing else. The fact that you think this is about what their teaching is ridiculous (all due respect)

 

1. I thought that it was the left that was all about feelings….

2. When did teaching about the black experience thru actual historical facts become political ? This has absolutely NOTHING to do with CRT and you know it !

Ron DeSantis is all about banning books, and changing the curriculum to being only about star spangled banners and rockets red glare subjects. At its core, this anti-crt movement is nothing more than “we cant teach it because it may make white people feel guilty about the past”.

This is so transparent Stevie Wonder can see it

 

Fake news. Florida has rejected a particular Black History course because it lacks educational value. The State has made clear that it is looking for “education, not indoctrination.” Elements of the rejected 'course were permeated with “radical” political perspectives that failed to capture the spectrum of black public opinion on several issues, including criminal justice.'

Fake news. Any FL resident can quickly and easily buy any of these books from Amazon or any similar outfit.

No one today has any reason to feel guilt over past crimes that were committed with no input from them.

Ron DeSantis: '“It’s not fair that to say that somehow abolishing prisons is somehow linked to black experience, that’s what black people want,” he said. “I don’t think that’s true at all. I think they want law and order, just like everyone else wants law and order.”'

I think he's probably right about that.



'He also questioned the incorporation of “queer theory” into the course syllabus.'

Yeah, wth is that?

'“When you try to use black history to shoehorn in queer theory, you are clearly trying to use that for political purposes,” he said.'

Indeed.



Very clear, detailed, and valid concerns. And they were offered an opportunity to bring the course into compliance with FL Law and resubmit it.

Florida requires the teaching of Black History, just not this crap.

 

You are deep in my friend

The college board is good for every state except that of DeSantis. The fact that you don't want so see the whitewashing of history thru omission, is not surprising, but is sad.

You the post a form form the Florida Department of Education to somehow bolster the validity of your argument, yet you fail to recognize who the FLORIDA dept of education reports thru, and who he appointed to that board (serves at the pleasure of the governer last year:

neither of these people have expertise in education, but they do have expertise in being DeSantis pawns on that board.

You do you sir.

 

What does it say about your position that even people with no background in education can easily identify nonsense like including queer studies in an African American history course? The College Board agreed with them when they removed these topics saying they didn't meet their standards after speaking with professors on the subject. Maybe all you need is common sense to figure this stuff out? Florida is no longer a purple state. They are moving further red as these policies are implemented. So it seems his constituents highly approve of this. The more the far left defends this the more they vote Republican. This is a losing issue for Democrats. They will be running for the hills to avoid debating this subject. Americans aren't communists and they don't want their schools trying to indicate their kids.

 

PERHAPS there might be an issue with the Black Queer Study Topic, but I don't know how you can teach AA studies and NOT discuss the Reparations movement (4.30) and Black Study Struggle in the 21st century (4.31)

Bottom line, it's for educators to determine what is in an AP class of this type, not meatballs like Meatball. If ONE (1) state has "laws" that prevent teaching items, I would think that ONE (1) state should be reevaluating their own censorship...

Why is it do you think NOBODY joined Florida in this objection?

 

Democrats are fixated on dumbing down the education system to make us all equally stupid.

 

You may be able to, if one does in a balanced manner.

The State of FL is under no obligation to devote state resources and facilities to the indoctrination of youth into Left Wing political narratives. The sense of entitlement of some people is a bit mind blowing. You do realize that they are a FREE PEOPLE, with a FREE LEGISLATURE, that has the final say on how the resources of the Free People of FL are spent? And how their youth are educated? Obviously you don't. Too many view Free Americas as cows to be milked at their pleasure.

That will be a question that States will be putting to their elected officials. How come FL is able to stand against the Left's constant assault in the culture wars, but you do nothing but make loud proclamations to cover your retreat?

We're not clear on why DeSantis is so successful where other elected representatives are so helpless. But, once the formula is understood voters will demand that it be replicated.

I suspect that it starts with the fact that DeSantis begins the process with enabling legislation and does not move forward on a front until he has the legislative groundwork properly laid and the personnel in place that will enforce the legislation.

I'm not certain that he can replicate this on the national level which is why I'm not as certain as others that he will be running for President.

 

Replicate what? Shooting at everything that moves, then claim victory regardless of the facts?

Yeah, I'm positive he won't be able to replicate that on a National level...

Here's an interesting article on the DeSantis "victory" against Disney you might want to scroll through (very) quickly

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tough-guy-ron-desantis-defeats-100022031.html

 

LoL.

No.

Have you found a new messiah in DeSantis? Trump is no longer the flavor of the day?

Obviously, the Midterms results have taught you nothing.

It is typical of conservatives to believe that a majority of Americans think like them without admitting it.

Florida is an exception, and moderates in this country are watching what is happening there with great apprehension.

 

We won the midterms by 3 million votes and 9 seats.

Wishcasting

 

I forgot that you think you won last November.

So we are both satisfied.

I hope the Republicans win the same way in 2024....

 

Has everything to do with CRT even though you dont know it.

 

We did win in November, by 3,000,000 votes and 9 seats. The 9 seat margin that McCarthy now has is the same 9 seat margin that Pelosi had after the 2020 election. I forgot that you thought that Democrats lost the 2020 House elections.

 

ummmm, they were chosen exactly FOR that position !

 

Explain to us what is CRT ?

 

Id rather not. The AP course included queer studies, intersectionality, reparations, affirmative action and Black Lives Matter which isnt about historical facts. Derrick Bell and Kimberle Crenshaw were required reading. Cant be more CRT than those two.

 

Why is that CRT?
It's just US history that Aryans and Jews who use to slave blacks around in Colombia were paid 300 bucks in compensation for every slave they had to let go.
Just like that black people were not as a whole compensated for the apartheid rule that was installed to benefit the Aryans and Jews, while there is such a thing as affirmative action.

It sounds far more that the label of CRT must be flung on all kinds of things for the sake to censure actual history.

 

Slavery is CRT ?

 

Well, Derrick Bell is recognized as the founder of CRT. Kimberle Crenshaw recognized as another originator of CRT, She is credited with coining intersectionality as a part of CRT. Reparations and AA is a goal of CRT.

 

??? Nobody has mentioned slavery in this conversation. No, slavery is not CRT. Why ask? Looking for a strawman for refuge?

 

Why is "queer studies", and intersexuality part of CRT ?

 

Slavery is not taught in Florida.

https://floridaphoenix.com/2021/05/...for-fl-schools-dont-mention-the-word-slavery/

CRT is the teaching of laws that used race as a qualifier. So how can you not teach about those laws and still teach slavery ?

 

So what. There was already AA before these people showed up on the stage. And the entire idea of reparations isn't new as well. It's as old as the slavers getting reparations from the state for being made to lose their slaves.

That slavers got reparations is just normal American history.
That there is AA and when it start is normal American history.
It seems white far right wingers just label it "CRT" for the sake to censure it.

 

They all are a part of Critical Theory. Kimberle Crenshaw, a CRT scholar, brought them together.