Gaddafi murdered by NATO and new buddies.

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  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    This entire episode was an act of illegal regime change, perpetrated by the stub-end of colonial France with the craven assistance of the international whores in the English parliament. That the United Nations security council permitted NATO to create and control a civil war is testimony in itself to the appalling absence of democratic principles at that level. Should the Security Council ever pass such judgement again - and it has recently vetoed a similar attack on Syria, to the fury of the US of AIPAC- we can be certain that it's time for an international revolution against the system created by the victors of WW2.
    The murder of Gaddafi is nothing to be proud of . It might have been a long and drawn out process but it was an assassination . So was the hanging of Saddam , perpetrated beneath the trappings of civilized western law. These people who command such depravities are not our representatives. They are brutes who take control of our poisoned and weakened democratic systems because we have been disenfranchised of the means to prevent them and robbed of the will. This assassination shames us all. How extraordinary it would be if it actually shamed us into action.

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    RIP Gaddafi- a Lion of Africa.

     
  2. RiseAgainst

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    Al Qaeda murdered Qaddafi. But they're good guys now. But we're still killing them in Iraq and Afghanistan. Oh I am so confused...
     
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    Although I too wish that he had been tried instead of killed, I would call him a wart on the ass of Africa. Good riddance to a tyrant and sleaze ball of the worst sort. Daffy died at the hands of his people and he has only himself to blame for that!

    Blaming the West for the actions of a tyrant over a 42 year epriod is :bored:
     
  4. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    Do read the information provided. Gaddafi's escape convoy was bombed by the French. Now tell us that it wasn't and your public announcement of crass stupidity will be complete.
     
  5. Abu Sina

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    the Libyans even fought over his corpse

    The rebels from Misurata who were in Sirte fought with the ones from Benghazi and Sirte to take the trophy corpse.

    Misuratans dont like anyone. Tripolines dont like Benghazans. All 3 dont like each other and the fighting over the corpse showed one little reason why all the Libya is in for a huge problem of uniting these tribes.

    The fun will start now with Bil Hajj !!!!

    Jibril will not want to stand against him!!!
     
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    Wait a minute. I don't understand.

    Why is it Moon, that you welcomed the Arab Spring when it came to Mubarak, but not Q?
     
  7. Abu Sina

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    Moon understands Arab culture more than many here.

    He was assassinated and humiliated and dragged through the streets which is totally against Islam. Today those rebels will be (hopefully) regretting this action. i can't think of any Muslim that would condone this treatment of a 70 year old man no matter what he done. Our culture is very specific about things like this.
    I am sure that Arabs and Arab leaders and any real Muslim would be today sickened and in shock at the scenes.


    Egyptians overthrew Mubarak with no outside interference.

    Libyans do not have that to write in their history books.

    I can tell you something else.
    All Muslims today in Friday prayers would be praying for his soul and the souls of all the martyrs all over.
    Muslims are not the judges. We would pray for all Muslims and even Gaddaffi because that is our religion and belief.

    They might have been dragging his body through the streets but today in Libya they will all be praying for his soul in the mosques.
     
  8. moon

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    The Egyptians didn't murder Mubarak out of hand and their revolution wasn't NATO inspired, financed and supported. Egypt stands proud for its part in the Arab Spring- Libya crawls on its belly for the NATO coup.

    ( I couldn't agree more with post #9, which I've just read )
     
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    Makes sense. I am a Christian and the video of his death was horrifying. How anybody can be celebrating this I do not know. He was pleading for their mercy was he not? The God I know is merciful and we should try to emulate his nature. I am not saying forgive him and let him walk but there had to have been another way. This was not right. Even I prayed for his soul when I saw that.
     
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  10. moon

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    Well spoken. I don't believe myself that he was anything other than composed- as the video depicted him. This ' pleading ' with the rabble can be disregarded, I think.
     
  11. Abu Sina

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    I'll tell you another difference.

    When Mubarak fell Egyptians were not dancing in choreographed lines in front of Western Press.
    We were not shouting praises out to anyone except ourselves.

    There was no 'thank you France' and 'Thank you BBC' and 'thank you Obama'.
    There was no CNN crew filming for an hour the same 10 rebels in the same spot on cue for cameras.

    Egyptians didn't care if cameras were on them or not. They didn't dance as if rehersed.

    In fact Western press were not welcome at many points.
    We were not on show shooting guns and facing the cameras and waiting for a good angle to cut a rug with Mubaraks face on it.

    It was spontaneous and not staged as in Libya.

    Just go back and compare and you will see what I mean.
     
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    Awww another one of Moon's heroes bites the dust, first Saddam, then Bin Laden, and now Qaddafi, but don't worry there's still plenty of genocidal dictators and megalomaniacal terrorists for you to idolize.
     
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    Going completely against the UN resolution.
     
  14. Abu Sina

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    Yes most God fearing people would have been.
    It was sickening.

    He was a mad dog of course but an old man who was pleading for his life and not to be shot.

    They were a disgrace.

    I am waiting to hear Arab leaders reactions and have heard nothing yet on the execution.

    I am sure they are sickened and in shock right now and dont know what to say on camera unlike Cameron and Obama etc.
     
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    Very little information about this has been released to the public and it may never be. But right when that short 1 min video started he looked badly beaten already.

    This whole Libya thing has been fishy from the start. In the early stages of the war the US media said Al Qaeda may be among the rebels, then they never talk about that again and talk about the fight against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Iraq. It's almost like they want people to be suspicious of them. That or they are terrible at lying and cover-ups. If they were honest they would say Al Qaeda may be among the rebels, then investigate and report on the findings. I do not know what to believe anymore. I think what happened is NATO straight up hunted down and assassinated Qaddafi themselves and used the rebels to conceal what was truly happening.
     
  16. MurkyFogsFutureLogs

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    Good:On the one hand a tyrant has been killed,

    Bad:On the other, thousands of people have died,

    Good: Many people in Libya now have the political freedom they clamoured for.

    Bad: Tribes hold the political cards in Libya, well they and Islamist groups, which may come to a head in a form of military confrontation and another drawn out civil war.

    Good: Oil will start flowing again.

    Bad: It cost thousands of lives.

    Good: France gets over 80 business contracts out of this conflict.

    Bad: They were prepared to kill hundreds, destroy a nations infrastructure, go beyond international laws, bomb major cities, show hypocrisy at the international level and have weakened British and French influence in the U.N at the cost of this financial band-aid for the EU.

    Boiled down to the sources, this conflict it could be argued was a trade. Their lives, for our nations profits, but not profits that benefit our peoples but the corporations which have more political influence in our own western nations, than all the working class voters put together, this wasn't about dictators, we know there's more dictators than can be counted in the region, it just so happens, when a nation is small enough, doesn't have nuclear arms to defend itself, but has some natural resources, the west will no doubt get into bed with them, then bomb them once the deal goes sour. This is not about peoples freedoms or peoples rights or about democracy that benefits the people, it's about profit, and profit from blood, profit from war, which will be used to prop up the failing financial system of the EU.
     
  17. moon

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    Any resistance to the ' Democratic Doctrine of Death ' is fine by me.
     
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    How does one "murder" a mad dog?
     
  19. Abu Sina

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    this will explain it all to you

    Al-Qaida-fighter and Salafist Abdul Hakim Belhadj is now Military Commander of Tripoli video on U Tube


    Note also the rise of Saudi Salafists all over the North African coast countries!
    Note Egypts huge new problem with the Saudi inspired Salafists!
    The Coptic Bishops statements about them.
    The Sufi statements about them.
    My comments about them.

    Bil Hajj fully supported by the USA in Tripoli :wink:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRMlVI5SJGE"]Al-Qaida-fighter and Salafist Abdul Hakim Belhadj is now Military Commander of Tripoli (aug 26) - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Its not about the happiness or betterment of these folks moon is concerned about it is how the US plays its part and what hollow criticism he can muster in its wake. Dont let the bleeding heart advocacy fool you...hes a diehard fan of Q for gawds sake.
     
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    In reply to Moon and Abu Sina and keeping in mind the totality of the reign of Captain Muammar Qadaffi over Libya for four decades:


    DING, DONG, THE WITCH IS DEAD!!!
     
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    This is just the beginning. He wasn't fighting by himself you know. I wonder what will happen to the pro-Gaddafi forces.
     
  23. moon

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    How does one read a propaganda phrase and come to believe it. Ronald Reagan was the author, was he not , that pillar of law and honesty ?
     
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    http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no...Pid]=7&cHash=404be00ea3fda75f0593eb58be9d6919

    http://www.middleeastmonitor.org.uk/resources/reports-and-publications?format=feed&type=rss

    Well this will get you a measure of support against Qaddafi.
     
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    What illegal regime changed? He was a a unopposed dictator for 42 years who murdered his enemies at home and abroad and fostered terrorism all over Africa.

    It is unreasonable to romantacize Khadafi now or blame anyone but the tribes of Libya who were fed up with him.

    Khadafi had a choice of action months ago.. He chose to fight the people instead.

    Libya was Italian NOT French and this had NOTHING to do with AIPAC.




     

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