Gallop: FOX favored Single TV News...but.....

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    Why would you say that?

    I have no illusions at all about the poltical bias of MSNBC.

    But then thier slogan is not "fair and balanced"

    MSNBC doesn't lie to its audience and scam them all the time. MSNBC doesn't put poltical activists on the screen and represent them as impartial spokesmen like Fox does all the time. MSNBC doesn't put campaign officials on to stump for thier candidates, and hide their affiliation, as Fox did all throughout the 2012 election cycle.

    And MSNBC never put a Democratic presidential candidate on the payroll in order to give them a paid opportunity to campaign for himself, the way Fox did with Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, Michelle Bachman, Sarah Palin and just about every potential GOP presidential candidate except for Mitt Romney.

    MSNBC doesn't try and convince its audience that it is "fair and balanced", It's liberal, and unabashedly so.

    It doesn't lie, but it does exaggerate for effect and errors of omission are fairly common.

    Fortunately,. most of its audience doesn't rely on television as a primary news source.

    I don't watch it much anymore. They've followed the Fox model of substituting punditocracy for journalism. Which is boring and uninformative. I'll leave the validation for the low information crowd.
     
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    Unlike Fox, MSNBC also doesn't bring on people from the other Party to always give their views on issues.

    MSNBC seems to have no trouble at all doctoring video and audio tapes to show things different than they actually are.
     
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    Looking at it, I have to agree with you.Although the degree of the lies between the two are quite different. One by Fox makes the crowd look larger than what it actuall is. The other says Obama was the only President to use an executive order on immigration. Not the truth, but no real harm done by either.

    MSNBC munipulated a tape so that it sounded like Zimmerman was pointing out the guy was Black and saying these guys get away with it all the time. Zim only mentioned his color when asked. He did not volunteer saying he was Black, making it look like he was a racist.

    In Phoenix, they manipulated a tape with a guy carrying a rifle and a gun and tried to pass him off as a White, when he was actually Black, again making it look racial.

    In the other one they fix the tape to make it sound like the crowed was only cheering for Ryan and not Romney. That one wasn't so bad. It's the two MSNBC tried to play the race card that was bad.
     
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    Fox doesn't either. It has a series of straight men it employs to play liberal on their air so that morons like O'Reilly and hammity can shout over them.
     
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    I almost forgot. They played the race card again at the Republican National Convention by leaving out every minority that spoke at that convention, trying to make it look like no minorities supported the Republican ticket. They are good at playing the race card.
     
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    That is one of many many examples of Fox faking video. They faked the size of GOP Campaign rallies quite frequently.

    The shopped the Shirley Sherrod smear using edited out of context video.

    The notorious "pimp and ho" video was also faked.

    When Bush was president, they used to edit the gaffes out of their transcripts of White House press conferences and briefings.
     
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    Granted both do get their dander up and quite a few times breaks into them while they are talking. But they are strait men/women. They give their Leftist views quite strongly.

    I will admit when I am wrong. I'll admit when the Right does something wrong. Can't figure out why the Left won't. .
     
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    pure ignorance
     
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    That Pimp and Ho video was not shot by Fox and it was showing them at different sites wearing different cloths.

    As for Shirley Sherrod, look at the time line. The story was already out for about an hour and a half before Fox picked it up. There is nothing to show that Fox had anything to do with the editing of either of those tapes. Unlike MSNBC who did do the editing themselves.

    12:13 p.m.: Hoft runs with Breitbart video. In a Gateway Pundit post titled, "More Racism at NAACP: Radical Obama Official Admits That She Openly Discriminates Against Whites," Jim Hoft posted Breitbart's video clip and wrote: "The former civil rights group known as the NAACP does not just invite anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan and radical America-hating Marxist Jeremiah Wright to speak at their events ...They also invite government officials who hate whitey, too." Hoft further wrote that "Sherrod admits in a speech at the NAACP that she discriminated against farmers because they were white."

    12:55 p.m.: HotAir's Morrissey: "Breitbart hits NAACP with promised video of racism." HotAir's Ed Morrissey wrote in a post titled, "Breitbart hits NAACP with promised video of racism," that the video "show USDA official Shirley Sherrod explain to an appreciative NAACP audience in July 2009 how she deliberately withheld information from a white farmer in Georgia trying to save his land and his business." Morrissey later noted: "Actually, if Sherrod had a different ending for this story, it could have been a good tale of redemption. She almost grasps this by initially noting that poverty is the real issue, which should be the moral of the anecdote. Instead of having acted on this realization -- and perhaps mindful of the audience -- Sherrod then backtracks and says that it's really an issue of race after all."

    1:40 p.m. (approximately): Fox Nation accuses Sherrod of "discrimination caught on tape" before she resigned. Fox Nation linked to Breitbart's Big Government piece and posted the deceptively cropped clips of Sherrod's speech at the NAACP in a post titled, "Caught on Tape: Obama Official Discriminates Against White Farmer":
     
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    Only 15% of factual reporting by MSNBC? The Left says Fox not a news station and it looks like Fox puts out more factual news than both CNN or MSNBC.
     
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    That was just the most convenient link. That James O'Keefe doctored his videos to make them appear to be something entirely different from what they were and had to pay a fairly substantial settlement ($100,000) is common knowledge. Spend some time on Google if you're not convinced. Here's another one:
    Nah, I opted to mostly just skim your posts - most of the time they aren't actually worth reading (see also: your assertion that the earth is expanding at a notable rate). I just spotted this one and thought the irony of you citing a demonstrably false Fox News story as evidence of Fox's efforts to combat fraud entertaining.

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    That was just the most convenient link. That James O'Keefe doctored his videos to make them appear to be something entirely different from what they were and had to pay a fairly substantial settlement ($100,000) is common knowledge. Spend some time on Google if you're not convinced. Here's another one:

    Nah, I opted to mostly just skim your posts - most of the time they aren't actually worth reading (see also: your assertion that the earth is expanding at a notable rate). I just spotted this one and thought the irony of you citing a demonstrably false Fox News story as evidence of Fox's efforts to combat fraud entertaining.
     
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    Actually, it was the other way around and embarrasingly so!

    At the GOP convention, they paraded everyone but who they really were on the stage in a cynical attempt to portray the GOP as mulitculteral and inclusive. Of course, when the cameras faced the audience, the crowd was lilly white.

    But the real action was out on the yacht Romney chartered anyway.

    We have the election results to prove that.
     
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    In both the Sherrod case and the 'pimp and ho" case, Fox was well aware that the material they were using was suspect. And they continued to use it in both cases well after news outlets exposed them. Fox knew Breitbart's modus operundi when it took the Sherrod piece and ran with it. They just chose not to ask too many questions. After all, the doctored video pandered right to their audience's prejudices.

    Anyway, the Sherrod smear was an orchestrated campaign. It was in the can waiting to be used. Claiming that the story was "already out for an hour", when the only sources you can cite are right wing trash blogs with reputations for dishonesty only confirms it. This is how the right wing noise machine works.

    The campaign was designed to knock the images of the bill signing for the financial reform package off the TV screens. The GOP couldn't have people watching the President sign a bill that 85% of the people supported, so they had to manufacture a distraction. Fortunately, they had one in the can already.
     
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    I frequently read triumphalist posturing from the right-wing, telling us that Fox leads in this popularity poll or has the highest viewing figures, as if it were a badge of honour or a mark of quality. McDonalds sells the most cheeseburgers; but what would you prefer, mystery meat or a good steak? (Apologies if the analogy is lost on some of you)
     

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