Gary Johnson at 25% in NM, 23% in UT

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  1. Telekat

    Telekat Member Past Donor

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    Gary Johnson is within 5 points of beating Donald Trump (29%) in New Mexico, and within 5 points of beating Hillary Clinton (27%) in Utah. He's at 15% or higher in 15 states, and 10% or higher in 42 states. With polling this strong for the Libertarian, how can the CPD reasonably exclude him from the presidential debate stage?



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    Simple, Johnson must be at 15% or above nationally. Have no fear, if Johnson managed to make the 15% threshold for the debates, the so called bipartisan debate commission would raise it to 20%. If there is one thing the Republicans and Democrats agree on, it is not viable third party will be allowed to arise and challenge them.

    The reason the presidential debates were taken away from the League of Women's Voters was they allowed Ross Perot in them. Another independent or third party candidate will never again see the presidential debate stage. You can bank on that.
     
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    interesting fact is that hillary does worse in 4 way polls than she does in 2 way, it might have something to do with most polls are oversampling democrats
     
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    On MMC's poll post with Trump above Clinton nationally?.....

    jackdog's "theory" that "polls oversample Democrats"?....


    magically disappears????

    :)
     
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    does not dissappear, just pushes the data farther right

    no theory either. Even MSNBC is lamenting that the recent CNN poll was using methodolgy that increased the weighting of the people who have been packing Trumps massive campaighn events. Guess MSNBC thinks that voter motivation does not matter, maybe that is why their ratings are in the crapper
     
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    It's pretty obvious your "analysis", JD....

    If a poll is GOOD for Trump....it's "accurate."

    If a poll is BAD for Trump.....it "oversamples Democrats"



    This is the same self-blinding attitude we saw in 2012. The Dean Chambers "skewed polls"/ Dick Morris "Romney Landslide" Effect that was propagated by Rightwing Radio, Drudge, and Fox News.

    And all it did was to EMBARRASS guys like you on Election Night. :)
     

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