Gavin Newsom signs bill to keep California's last nuclear energy plant open despite environmentalis

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    Well the idiot both signed a bill banning gas car sales and then realized that he CURRENTLY has power consumption issues.

    Maybe...just MAYBE the reality of what he's done has actually sunken in?

    Who knows. I'm sure he will **** up with some future anouncement based on virtue and not reality in the near future to get back on his expected course.
     
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    Did you notice how Brylcreem Boy blamed his decision on global warming?

    CA gets tons of water and power from Arizona and Nevada. CA seems to think that power generated in Arizona doesn’t pollute or turns the knob on the Earth’s temperature to Broil, they think the same way about oil.

    You know how CA forbids doing state business with states who don’t go along with the left’s bathroom laws? Well, Arizona and Nevada should start making demands of CA or off goes the water and power.
     
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    Nuclear energy remains an excellent interim source during the change-over to renewable non-polluting energy sources. It has the drawback of the disposal of radioactive waste, a problem yet to be dealt with in the US due to 'not in-my back yard-ism'.

    Safety can be improved by developing and then building only a standardized design. Then the same problem detection and correction procedures used in the aircraft industry can be instituted. Each negative event can be eliminated across all of the reactors.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    When did nuclear waste become environmentally friendly?
     
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    They'll probably ship it to another State, like Texas. It seems to be the new norm.

    Having said that, keeping in running is a good call.
     
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    Did he really have choice? Germany spent 15 years trying to get green energy online and look where they are. The technology is not there yet to handle America's energy demand.
     
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    Germany's goal was not to be 100% green by now. Having said that, they are ready for winter since their natural gas storage is almost 90% full, and other sources are same as before. No one expects US to be near 100% any time soon. Even new nuke plants might be a good idea, since we have major places like TX and CA having crises situations.
     
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    It's not... But to paraphrase, nuclear energy is the worst form of energy, except for all the others...

    There's almost no energy that won't come with some cost.... I think nuclear is one of the better ones from an environmental standpoint...

    Beats the **** out of burning stuff....
     
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    Nuclear is the cleanest, most viable form of energy we have. To suddenly abandon it with no viable replacement is a dipshit/unrealistic progressive idea. Gavin honestly has no other options unless he wants his state to be perpetually in blackouts.
     
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    Perhaps nuclear is the most viable source of energy. However, to me, : 1) Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, Fukushuima; 2) less than 100% confidence in proper government regulation/oversight; 3) the inability to plan for all contingency scenarios including natural disasters, sabotage, or even a war; and of course 4. Murphy's law (if it can go wrong it will go wrong) suggest otherwise.

    Risk can be mitigated, but there is always some llevel of residual risk for the operation of a nuclear power plant or anything else for that matter. When people say nuclear power is safe, what is that based on? It's not like any of us have access to a good risk assessment for an operation nuclear plant. The risk of a disaster may be small, but when conducting a risk analysis. one considers the annual loss expectency, which for a nuclear disaster could be huge.
     
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    ~ Newsome must be worried his winery will run out of electricity ... :blankstare::plug:
     
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    And after 15 years under Merkel how far along are they? People who say we should be forced into green energy should take heed at Germany's situation.
     
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    ~ It has nothing to do with green energy, carbon emissions or Co2 "climate catastrophe ". It is all about gradually dumbing-down and misleading society in order to pass a totalitarian agenda — less power/freedom for citizens and more authority and control by government. Covid-19 pandemic, Russia collusion, Ukraine, mass shootings are all recent examples of using fear and exaggeration as strategies for social engineering and change in government policies.
     
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    They are at around 51%. Their goal is to get to 80% by 2030.

    If they got to 51% in 15 years, then they stand as an encouraging example for those who believe in renewables.

    LOL. Norway gets 99% of their energy from renewables, so I suppose you are saying they are now live under a totalitarian tyranny. Listen to yourself.
     
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    Almost too funny he's asking everyone to not plug in their car or turn their ac to 78 so they don't have rolling blackouts yet only purchase electric cars. Either Californians are dumb as hell or believe the easter bunny will save them when needed. They're going to need it in the years to come no doubt.
     
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    I agree with you Ego!

    We need more nuclear plants not fewer.

    It's one of the greenist technologies foe high output plants.
     
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    Two news stories breaking simultaneously is all you need to explain the insanity of the left. Gee our power grid is failing..... this is the perfect time to move all of our cars onto the electric grid.... what could go wrong?

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-06/germany-s-energy-crisis-deepens-as-local-utilities-cry-for-help?leadSource=uverify wall

    LOL encouraging example, they are literally in an energy crisis as we speak.

    Ofcourse, they also are bringing back coal and oil fired plants to help since renewables aren't enough yet.
    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germanys-efforts-tackle-energy-crisis-2022-08-19/

    I find it hilarious the left claims look at Germany they went renewable, no they didn't they shut their plants down and instead of producing, they purchased from one of the dirtiest nonenvironmental friendly producer in the world. Now ofcourse they are going right back to where they came, coal and oil. The left is too gullible.
     
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    ~ Sadly I have concluded Californians are indeed as dumb as it gets. We recently had a recall to replace our Governor. Some are realizing their mistakes too late.
    As for Numbskull Newsom — he does not realize that when temps are over 100° the AC usually runs continuously — just like Arizona, Florida, Texas, etc. — and will use less energy than cycling on and off .
    I'm surprised he does not mandate breathing less to "lower Co2 for cooler weather" .. ! :rage:'
     
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    "The Shoreline Fault is a 25 km long vertical strike-slip fault, identified in 2008, which lies approximately three hundred meters from the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant in California. According to Pacific Gas & Electric, the fault may produce quakes up to 6.5 magnitude. "

    California’s Central Growing Valley is America’s most productive agricultural region providing more than half of the fruits, nuts and vegetables grown in the United States. Sadly, Diablo Canyon’s two nuclear reactors sit on our state’s central coastline and because coastal winds have a tendency to blow inland, there’s the frightening prospect that a megathrust earthquake, “The Big One”, could trigger a nuclear meltdown sending radioactive clouds into the Central Valley which would irradiate and poison much of the Central Valley’s produce.

    Furthermore, Diablo’s radioactive plumes could contaminate the drinking water that flows from the Sierra Mountains through the Central Valley and into cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles, which would lead to a mass migration out of California.

    Pacific Gas & Electric Company’s nuclear plant, located near Avila Beach in San Luis Obispo County, is surrounded by a confluence of 13 known fault lines on the seismically active “Pacific Ring of Fire” earthquake and tsunami zone.

    Originally designed to withstand a magnitude 6.75 earthquake and later reconstructed to endure a magnitude 7.5 quake, Diablo’s tolerances underestimate the true seismic potential of today’s mega-thrust shakers.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/0...built-on-a-faultline-should-close-as-planned/



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    "In 2019, 46% of the country's electricity mix came from wind, solar, biomass and hydroelectric sources. That's up 5.6 percentage points over 2018"
    https://www.trade.gov/energy-resour...many has been,5.6 percentage points over 2018.


    Keep up the right wing BS
     
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    Yep, Putin's war of choice is causing a lot of issues, worldwide. Maybe if Putin stopped invading and using it's energy as a weapon?
     
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    Ok, heh-heh-heh-heh. How funi.

    Their natural gas storage is at 85%, ahead of schedule, which means they are good for the winter.

    As for 51% renewables, I'm not sure how you figure 51% is somehow supposed to mean they can rely on is 100%, when no one ever claimed that would be the case. Pseudo-con math? They have multiple sources of energy and even if they reach their 80% goal by 2030, they will still need multiple sources because 80<>100. As of now, coal is their largest source.

    As for "encouraging example", I mean that if a country can get from 0% to 51% in only 15 years, then its absolutely worth it, even if it stays at 51%, the remaining 49% can come from other sources like nuclear.

    Eeeehh....Bring back? As of today coal is still their largest source. I'm not sure they ever burned oil to create energy.

    It has nothing to do with left and right. Well, I suppose it does to you, since you are told to rave against certain things and embrace other things based on partisan talking points ans everything your party disagrees with is always "left". Why does it offend you that some other country gets 51% of their energy from renewables?
     
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