Gay Cabal Replaces Science, and Soon, the Constitution Itself via DOMA & Prop 8

The research is never going to be strong enough before implementation of new policy where a cabal has dispensed of science..

*poof*...

Just gone without an up or down vote from any governing entity. Science was replaced with far left politics...

 

You replace science with your own personal opinions on here all the time.

Why is it ok for you to do it but not anyone else? What makes your opinion special?

 

Sadistic, I'm not an institution charged with overseeing the basic fundamentals for the mental health of the nation, and by extension and influence, policies in other medical entities like the AMA or American Pediatrics etc.

It's one thing for me to talk about this or that remedy. Who listens to me in the professional world? When the foundation of the professional world of medicine itself rests on a political and not scientific foundation, you might as well have voodoo doctors performing chicken beheadings to "cure" patients..

 

You're new to the forum. Silhouette's polls are never meant to be unbiased or neutral. That is not why she posts them.

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LOL...therefore it is ok for you to use your personal opinion in place of actual science? Is that what you are saying?

Holding other people to standards which you do not hold yourself is technically defined as hypocrisy. Thats the actual definition of hypocrisy.

 

Uh, I'm using personal opinion to draw attention to the fact that science no longer plays a part in the policies of the APA as per the title of this thread. I know that at the end of the line, your ilk will have personal opinions that defy gay-anything extinguished and punishable by scorn, ruin, imprisonment or perhaps even death; but for now the 1st Amendment allows them.....for now...

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In my opinion, your opinions are intended only to malign homosexuals, starting from the OP where you claim there is a 'gay cabal' even though the quote specifically- SPECIFICALLY- says there was no 'homosexual cabal'.

When your opinion is exactly the opposite of what the sources you use say they are, it becomes something more than a mere opinion.

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In my opinion, your opinions are intended only to malign homosexuals, starting from the OP where you claim there is a 'gay cabal' even though the quote specifically- SPECIFICALLY- says there was no 'homosexual cabal'.

When your opinion is exactly the opposite of what the sources you use say they are, it becomes something more than a mere opinion.

 

Yeah, you're doing exactly what you say the APA is doing. You are using your own opinion as a substitute for science.

LOL! Yes, you are so oppressed.

 

Apparently that's not a problem for you Sadistic. Only when you say I do it. I'm just a layperson. The APA is in charge of our nation's mental health. We need them to use science but the cabal running them has a different opinion.

 

fact is only bisexuals are sexually attracted to both sexes, bi-sexual need to learn that not all of us are like them, no one decides who they are attracted too, that's biology... now of those your attracted too, you can choose from that, if your bisexual, then you just have a bigger ocean to fish from then the rest of us


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From the OP:

A past president sympathetic towards gays yet shaken by the APA's abandoning its scientific principle for left politics speaks out...

So the principle that mandated that the APA use science to back it's official public stances just evaporated. And as a result we have harmful policies advancing based on non-science. Asking someone who was raped , beaten or witnessed atrocities at war to "think it all away positively" is not merely simplistic and foolish. It's malpractice and should be handled that way legally..

At least from top to bottom of this post, you can see how the progression over time would foster the demise of patients. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that once you remove science from any institution, it isn't long before the foxes start taking up the guard towers over the chicken coop.. or the cuckoo's nest...

 

repeating the same lie over and over doesn't suddenly make it true

 

So according to you the OP link is "a lie", the interview with Cummings, past president of the APA is also "a lie" and the comments from the APA website itself is also "a lie"? According to who? You?...

...lol..

 

No, you saying the OP link says what you say it does is the lie. The link in the OP specifically contradicts your claims.

So, repeating the same lie over and over doesn't suddenly make it true

 

Which is why I post citations and links and let people read for themselves. They can make up their own minds, yes?

 

Which is why we point out the actual content in the citations- like I point out that your citation of Cumings has him saying that homosexuality is not a mental illness and your other citation says that there was no 'homosexual cabal'.

We just clean up after your posts.

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Spiegel is quick to clarify that this group and others like it by no means constituted a “homosexual cabal,”

From you other citation:

In a second interview, Cummings described his resolution to remove homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses. “I made the resolution that being gay was not a mental illness, that it was characterological,” he said.

 

The citations and links you provide say precisely the opposite of what you claim they do.

Repeating the same lies over and over doesn't suddenly make them true.

 

You know rahl, I sometimes get the feeling that you post repetitive posts to spam pages so that their damning content "disappears" just like the Leona Tyler principle at the APA..

It's OK. You know I know how to bring that information back up again and talk about it anew.

 

That statement works both ways. The originator of this thread certainly qualifies as an "anti-gay activist", and there is no shortage of the same who base their arguments in religion, rather than science.

 

What, did rahl have the day off today?...lol..

 

Except that I'm not religious. The holy water would probably boil if I walked into a church...lol...
Besides, now that science has nothing to do with APA policies, we could call the APA a religious organization devoted to promoting their tenents of "all things gay are OK". Mass on Friday and Saturday nights at the blue light bar around the corner near you.

When you eradicate science from an institution, what you have left, by definition, is a religion...

 

And yet, from the article the OP quotes:

So the basis of this thread is a lie; a direct contradiction of the facts as related by someone with first person experience in the situation.

Elsewhere in the thread, we heard the excuse that the thread originator thinks that the phrase "gay cabal" describes the situation (despite the contradiction of this from the article quoted in the OP).

So the question arises of why we should treat as superior the opinion of the thread's originator, which stands in direct contradiction to the opinion of the person with firsthand knowledge of the situation and quoted in the article.

And the only honest answer is that we should not.

Now, as to the rest of the claim:

What evidence does the thread orginator have that a 'gay cabal' is operating within the court system and using the DOMA and Prop 8 cases as the sham vehicle for "replacing the constitution"? Surely that is the connotation here - that there has been some sort of "infiltration" by the "gay cabal". Otherwise, what guarantee could there be that the DOMA and Prop 8 cases will have the desired outcome, whatever that's supposed to be?

Clearly there is more to this conspiracy theory than the APA's decision several decades ago to no longer classify homosexuality as a mental illness.

How far does the reach of this "gay cabal" extend? To the courts? To Congress? To the presidency? Are they taking over sports teams? Sewing clubs? Restaurants and grocers? Clothing retailers? Who and where else?

It is ridiculous that this thread has reached this many pages, and a testament to the obstinance of those convinced of their own narrative no matter what contradicting facts are presented, even from the thread creator's own source.

Nonetheless, let's hear more about this cabal, its origins, how it manages to operate in secret and hoodwink the general public etc. I enjoy fiction as much as anyone else.

 

Nice recap of the facts of the thread.

This 'Gay Cabal' appears to be like a really poorly written and poorly thought out "Da Vinci Code" but with 'ebil Gays' as the villains.

 

no, I just feel compelled to point out lies when I see them.

 

Wow, you called for reinforcements! And that still won't change that defending science being removed from the APA is the same as promoting a cult running medicine..