Gay Chrsitians: Oxymoron?

From real Christians its to put pressure on to people to guilt them into changing their behavior to what they think is right so they can feel good about themselves.

 

Is that because it is so effective? Or because it is so exemplary of Jesus?

 

It is not reflective upon Jesus, so I guess they think it's effective.

 

Based on their packed out pews or the line to the baptismal?
Fear of an eternal destination in hell brings people to Jesus much? Does anyone believe that?

 

That I have no answer for.

What I do know is that in the Bible Jesus never said that nor did he guilt people into behaving. For the most part he tried to use encouraging conversation to convince people to convert to Christianity.

At least as far as I know, Jesus did not seem to use dirty rotten tricks to convert people. He just tried to convince them.

And he also walked with people that the religious authorities of the day shunned, just to be their friend.

Which I believe he'll continue to do if he ever comes back again, if he truly exists. When he does that he's going to anger a lot of Christians because a lot of Christians in the modern age act like the Pharisees of old. All they do is use religion to scam money out of people and to control people's lives.

And Jesus will be against them.

 

I imagine Jesus would feel the same today about the religious as he did two millenia ago. He sought the broken and humble because they were receptive to his message. Those sure they had it all figured out, well, according to Jesus had it all wrong. There's much to be said of humility. It is a much more alluring trait than the haughty pride Proverbs warns precedes the fall.

 

Biblically speaking, what is a "real" Christian, remember to show your work.

 

That 'GOD hates homosexuality' is a human creation, whether historically mis-quoted or badly translated by wine induced stupors in some earlier 2 or 3 digit centuries BC or AD.

God doesn't hate anything, God is about goodness and mercy. Where goodness and/or mercy is missing, God creates opportunities for adjustment. Hate is never involved.

 

Deut 23:w says:

23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

And

A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
Proverbs 6:18

In other words, there are some things that God hates. To say otherwise is to be in denial.

But then again some people would deny it if their hair was on fire.

 

you shouldn't be telling people to be gay, even though I realize u aren't doing that, strictly speaking...

practicing such acts lands one in Hell

Even after repenting of such, it is difficult to wash away all the ill effects of such terrible sin from the soul/heart/mind/body

when one sins, all those parts of the person are adversely affected.

In Revelations we are told that NO impure thing will enter Heaven... Our bodies need to be pure along with our spirit, because to have an impure body affects the spirit... sin gives way to the devil... (etc)

 

Are you sinless? Pure? Does that mean you will be going to hell if you answer yes to any of the questions?
Are you saying Gay is more of a sin than other sins? I was not aware sins have a ranking.

 

Christ began a new covenant through his sacrifice. Read Mark 3:28 where in his own words he promised the forgiveness of all sins. The next verse he made an exception of one. It was not being a bastard

 

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A real Christian is one who seeks and acts in regard to truth as a way of life.

Jesus said, "I am the Truth,... and the way and the life." (John 14:6)

 

The bastards are the poor Abused Children that a sexually promiscuous society creates in the millions.
They are the victims and also the Social Problem that destroys successful nations.

 

Show PROOF of claim.

 

Nope! But, a Christian who hates gays . . . THAT is an oxymoron!

 

incorrect.

A Christian is somebody that believes Christ is God. That is what the bible says.

It doesn't have anything to do with how you act. You can't act in truth anyway. Christ is truth, you can't act in Christ. Romans 3:23.

I agree with Christ's statement so I am Christian. That is all there is to it.

 

I know this is your soap box. But I find it rather ridiculous that you attempt to turn every discussion into this.

 

God didn't god out of his way to destroy cities full of lying adulterated thiefs. He sure went out of his way to destroy not 1 but 2 cities full of gay people

 

I am neither Gay or Christian

 

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them."
1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
Homosexuality is clearly condemned in the Bible. It undermines God's created order where He made Adam and Eve, a man and a woman, to carry out his command to fill and subdue the earth (Gen. 1:2. Homosexuality cannot carry out that mandate. In addition, it undermines the basic family unit of husband and wife which is the God-ordained means of procreation. And, believe it or not, it is also dangerous to society. (See, Is homosexuality dangerous?)

Unlike other sins, homosexuality has a heavy judgment administered by God Himself upon those who commit it and support it. This judgment is that those who practice it are given over to their passions and believe its lie, which means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins.

"For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error," (Romans 1:26-27).

As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing, will not seek forgiveness, and will not repent. They will die in their sins and face God's righteous condemnation.

But their rebellion against God does not stop there. Those thus judged also promote it and condemn others who don't approve of their behavior.

"...and, although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them," (Rom. 1:32).

So, in their "hearty approval" of homosexuality, they encourage others to accept their practice; and thus their sin spreads. In this, they will reject the ways of God and stand in opposition to Christ's redemptive work on the cross. Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness. Without forgiveness, they will have no salvation. Without salvation, there is only damnation in eternal Hell. We don't want this for anyone.

 

Many Christians are also sinners........

However, a group of Rabbis in Israel decided that since man is made in God's image, He must have made gay people too.

 

He went out of his way to flood the world to kill lying adulterated thieves.

 

There are dozens of sins in the OT that call for the sinner to be put to death... like sassing your parents.

 

Abolitionist Christians: Oxymoron?

This is quite impossible, because if you believe in the Bible, you can't be an "Abolitionist Christian" . . . So that label is an abomination and very contradictory. An Oxymoron.

So, be an abolitionist, just don't try to cloak your abolitionism in the word of GOD. It won't work. GOD instituted slavery.