Gemany - €50M hate speech fines for social media firms

Wow, the Ministry of Truth is being built right before our eyes.
Btw, if they want to ban hate speech, I suggest they start with the Quran.

 

They can now burn any books that are morally wrong.

 

Wait, it's actually called "The Ministry of Truth?" Are you serious? Ok, had to go look this up, glad that is not true, I would have been shocked, but I get the message.....

Yeah, definitely not a fan of this kind of payments being forced, glad I am American

 

This is a really good move, Google/Twitter and Facebook makes billions of other people's content, if they want the money they should accept the responsibility.

 

What should be outlawed - and prevented on social media and the Internet - in my opinion is people on other countries trying to influence American elections. They could involve ONLY in their elections and we should only involve in ours via social media and the Internet.

 

With such a law, in my opinion Germany should totally cut off from the worldwide Internet and limited only to an internet system only in Germany itself. But, then, in my opinion it would best if Germany overall was cut off and isolated from the rest of the world anyway.

There is a deeply undercurrent that existed in German society for many, many centuries that is that Germans are racially/ethnically superior and deeply rooted intolerance that has lead to war after war after war. We have seen that on this forum of German members posting Germany is superior for genetic reasons, that WalMart was run out of Germany because of the horrific offense of male employees smiling.

As for this law, it is predictable. Germany is a future state of the Empire of Islam by its surrender to it - and accordingly also will increasingly be intolerant of any conduct, activity and speech not approved of by the government, which is consistent with radical Islam itself.

In the long run, as before, the country that most endangers the West is not Russia. It is Germany.

 

No, it's called "censorship", in a bad way.
The West criticized the Soviet Union for not having freedom of speech. Now it has turned into one (Soviet Union).

 

Germany has surrendered to and is submissive to the Empire of Islam. Not only will they not ban even the most horrific hate speech in the Quran, this law primarily is to ban criticism of the Quran, of the ideology of Islam or the conduct of Muslims in Germany or anywhere else.

 

Funny you should mention the Russians. This action taken by the Germans is a direct step against what happened with the US election. The spreading of fake news and misinformation derailing a democratic election, it's no coincidence their election is only 3 months away.

Consider what happened with Macron, in the French election, the Friday night before the election documents were released online claiming he is guilty of Fraud/money laundering. In France he was not allowed to make any further comments so close to the election until after the election, so no way for him to defend himself. Has anyone prosecuted him for Fraud/money laundering? No it was fake...thankfully the French people were able to understand who were behind these accusations and give him a fair chance, this sort of thing should not be allowed to happen and it's exactly what the German's are trying to prevent.

If harmful fake documents are released anonymously online social media sites have an obligation to remove them, otherwise they are complicit. And certainly think about the individual targeted, why is it ok to accuse someone falsely and they are in no position to defend, it's slander....there are laws against it for a reason.

 

Germany is run by hard-core lefts of quasi united party CSU-CDU-SPD-FDP-Lefts-Green without any opposition.The biggest enemy is German folk itself therefore CSU-CDU-SPD-FDP-Lefts-Green are hardly working on replacing of native folks by Africa-arabian refuges ( IQ 60, 50 % illiterate, only 1 % have education possible to find low paid work in Germany ). Only last two years Two Millions 'refuges' entered the country and 'enriched' Germans with crimes of any kind. After so-called 2017 'elections' CSU-CDU-SPD-FDP-Lefts-Green want to continue to flood the country with 'refuges' and family members, The targeted goal to 2020 are more as fifteen millions 'refuges'. Not all Germans are happy about, therefore CSU-CDU-SPD-FDP-Lefts-Green passed immediately the law to severe punish dissents.
Many Germans leave country in droves because they afraid communistic-Islamic dictatorship within few years.Unfortunately Germany is gone as a free democratic country.Many Germans are immigrating to Russia, still a Free Country of Christian White European Man.

 

They have already a big list of prohibited books and authors.

 

And what is about Free Speech so hated by lefts?

 

The goal is to establish a socialist Caliphate within some decades.

 

USSR had more Free Speech as Merkel's Germany now. For non politically correct views you can lose your job, be beat by Antifa, be subject of police investigations and sued by courts.Your children can be took away by German CPS, your home demolished etc. etc. etc.

Germany is now a socialist nightmare.

 

Same in the UK mate.
In all honesty, it's the same here.

That said you have just taken things further than us. Sucks to be you.

 

While I like your sentiments to social responsibility, The question here is only "what qualifies a person for that responsibility?"

Who amongst us is omniscient and unbiasedly benevolent?

Answer? No one.

That is a power you are not granted by me. Because you are not a higher authority than me. And in a society of equals I will accept no one as a higher authority than me. Nor should I have to.

 

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

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So what does the EU dictatorship do when it sees the jolly ol' coffers are beginning to dry up? Why, it starts hitting big firms with commensurately big fines to replenish them of course. Like taking candy from a baby!

 

If it's your platform it's your responsibility... business owner -- business owner's responsibility, besides the ultimate decision will rest with the courts like all other legal issues.... what qualifies the courts to judge rape/murder/fraud/slander.....

 

Adolf Hitler would have loved a law like that. The state gets to command what hate speech is.

 

Yup, it's much worse than be sent off to a gulag.


Geez... the amount of right wing whiners.
lol

 

The courts aren't qualified to judge this. Only a jury of my peers is.
And you know what? If I don't respect their rulings, I don't abide by them.

We call this, "consensual rule".
I agree to abide by laws I respect. I agree to be arbitrated by people I respect.
You can't actually make me. I choose to.

 

It depends on the country, not all countries have jury systems, I don't think Germany have a jury system. Well you go right ahead and do whatever you like, if it's illegal it will catch up with you.

I think these gossip mags and people on social media sites who think they can smear others are disgusting, the law should not protect them

 

I think when you enter the playground, school rules aren't going to save you.
If you are too sensitive to discuss issues on an open forum, then don't. Close yourself off from the world.


I don't worry so much about fake news. I've been on the receiving end of media smears and didn't like it. In the end it's up to the consumers of such news to discern the validity of each story reported.

You have to take responsibility for yourself.

In the case of illegal, if enough people break the law at the same time, the law has to change not the people breaking it.
With no public consent, there simply is no law.

My example in this is the Poll Tax rebellion. Millions of people simply broke the law and didn't pay it. It was illegal and the only people it caught up with was those who created the law, they lost their jobs.


I'm not anti censorship. I like race laws. I don't like unmitigated freedom of speech. I believe bad ideas can be spread. Malign thoughts.
And that bad teaching, can spread the acceptance of incorrect information.

But the problem remains, only I am qualified to decide which things are not allowed to be said and only I am qualified to decide if news and teachings are wrong or not.
So either defer to my judgement, or forget about applying it to me.
I just won't defer to you on issues so idiosyncratic.

 

They fear the backlash from ordinary Germans so they try to reign them in before they start rioting. Merkel screwed big deal with inviting all those refugees to Europe. She knows it. Everyone knows it. It backfired badly across the continent. Her idiotic immigration policies will have grave consequences (social, economic, security) for many years to come.

And The Country Receiving The Most Asylum Applications In The World Is...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-01/and-country-receiving-most-asylum-applications-world

According to the latest OECD report published today, the (OECD) country receiving the most new applications for asylum last year was Germany...

You will find more statistics at Statista

As Statista's Martin Armstrong notes, this is perhaps not so surprising, given the welcoming stance offered by Chancellor Merkel's government amid the refugee crisis.

The most common countries of origin for applicants in Germany were Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq...