Gender Neutral Parenting

Please keep posting, you expose your ignorance.

 

Then why would, if you gave a 5 year old boy a barbie doll, he would use it as a a weapon - and if you gave a 5 year old girl a GI Joe, she'd play dress-up with it? There have been attempts by radical liberals to forcibly reassign gender roles to young kids, and they have failed.

 

I didn't mean it like that, but the "normal" kids ignoring them and leaving them alone would be better than bullying them.

 

I actually would agree that boys and girls will, in general, have specific traits related to their sex. The whole point of creating this thread was to spread the idea that not all kids display those behaviors, and that parents shouldn't shame them for that.

 

According to the other dude, he thinks that gender roles "are assigned" by some super sekret gender reeducation camp that operates in secrecy.

I guess he thinks a 5 year old boy would never be interested in guns and action figures if he his parents hadn't let him watch the GI Joe cartoon on Cartoon network. If he had just watched an episode of Hannah Montana instead, then he'd be demanding his parents send him to school in girl's jeans and a blonde wig.

I wonder what mail order college this dude got his degree in psychology from.

 

The only "forcing" going on is when those adamant about traditional gender roles force their children to conform to their standards. So what if a boy wants to play with a Barbie Doll? Or a girl wants a GI Joe? Chances are if their kids were to request those things their parents would refuse, or force them to have something they don't want. How are "liberals" trying to "forcibly reassign gender roles to young kids", pray tell? By saying parents should give them a choice? :/

 

There's no secret camp, but it's society that reinforces heteronormality and gender roles. Sure, boys use barbies as a weapon. I know I did, and I still am not a typical male. Some male traits of mine may be ingrained due to testosterone or something, but that doesn't mean I'm going to naturally fall in line with cultural expectations of what a man is. You also said a man who's a stay at home dad isn't traditionally masculine, but from what I've seen, most stay at home dads are fairly masculine, and they still perform house duties because it's their job as a dad. Isn't that what real men in your definition are supposed to do, taking care of business?

 

They reenforce it because it is what comes naturally for most men/women - there's no 'cabal' out there that conspires to decide gender roles - the fact is what most men/women naturally lean toward is what becomes the norm, naturally. Trying to change that requires social engineering and reeducation, and discrimination against the majority in favor of a whiny minority who thinks they're entitled to acceptance, when they should just learn to deal with it.

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They reenforce it because it is what comes naturally for most men/women - there's no 'cabal' out there that conspires to decide gender roles - the fact is what most men/women naturally lean toward is what becomes the norm, naturally. Trying to change that requires social engineering and reeducation, and discrimination against the majority in favor of a whiny minority who thinks they're entitled to acceptance, when they should just learn to deal with it.

 

All your last statement does is reinforce the status quo and the notion that anyone who doesn't fit it is just a whiny brat who needs to shut up. Honestly, it's a disgusting attitude.

 

You don't understand this, you have made that clear many times over. No need to prove an affirmed conclusion.

We are done, you have chosen ignorance and justified it with some fictitious political conspiracy, maybe its the free masons or the fluoride in the water, which ever form of Bologna you choose to blame it on is of no importance to me.

Furthermore your blindness is apparent, I am conservative. So either I am a double agent in this conspiracy or a cog in its mechanism.

So enjoy your life, abuse your children for not fitting into the highly regimented gender norms you find of the up most importance and I will continue living in three 21st century and if I ever have a daughter that wants to be a doctor or a construction worker I will support her, just like if I have a boy that wants to be a fashion designer or anything else.

You can sit in your prison of ignorance and rage and moan about how that is the satanic forces taking over all you want. That is your decision, but I never will think that you are valid or a good person for doing so.

 

If a blade of grass grows higher than the others you chop it off, conformity is the most important. Funny he thinks he is conservative, the communist ideal is all people being the same and not expressing their individuality.

He believes in a conspiracy to tear down gender stereotypes, as if stereotypes are ever valuable to a society. Yeah I guess there is a conspiracy to tear down this crap, I always called it liberty, but some want the liberty to dictate liberty away from others.

 

From what I get from SpaceCricket he appears to be saying "masculinity" comes natural to boys, and "femininity" natural to girls, and I agree - that is usually (but not always) the case. HOWEVER the problem arises when society tries to label things masculine and feminine; what is "inherently" feminine about a Barbie Doll (maybe it's just because young Joey thinks she's pretty, as heterosexual people are supposed to..)?

What's sad is that it's usually more acceptable for girls to engage in "masculine" behavior than it is for men/boys to engage in "feminine" behavior/interests. And that's largely due to homophobia among straight men and a greater social expectation for men to be big and strong.

 

No it wouldn't, because the tranny kids will equate the ostracism with bullying, and their parents even more so.

 

So if people don't fit those norms they should be what institutionalized? Driven to suicide? Or what?

You are a bully. You want people that don't agree with you intimidated into confirming to your nonsense. You said so you agree with social pressure to wipe away individuality and the engineering the society to confirm by declaring those that don't confirm and submit into psychiatric disorder.

You want everybody to be the same, you are a communist. Just live and let live.

 

Perhaps segregation would be the better term. There's too many bullies for most trans kids to adjust well in a school setting.

 

Homophobia and cowardice. Men that desperately need to prove their manhood seem to mirror highschool female social groups, picking people that don't fit the molds and mercilessly badgering them, gossip and other things. Ask of my heterosexual friends are very secure and dint need that crap.

 

It's one of the things I hate about online gaming. Constant bickering and bullying laced with homophobia and immature "yo mama" jokes. In fact, most spaces that are mostly male dominated have that kind of behavior. Especially sports culture.

 

Why is it necessary to torment people that do things that doesn't involve others. If there were no gays, Trans, or anything, bullies would bully kids that are mentally disabled, poor or physically disabled, paradise just smaller in stature, skinny or what
All a skinny kid has to do is put on some weight, he should be bullied into confirming, all the girl with smaller boobs has to do is get a Brest implant. I mean they should because they don't confirm right? The Jewish kid could just renounce his faith right because some kids are being bullied because they are Jews.

Why is it okay to bully kids that have a different sexual identity but not those that have a different religious identity? If a kid chooses to be gay they also choose to be Jewish. They could just choose not to right, that would end that deviance.

 

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you're sufficiently delusional to believe tranny kids won't bully each other.

 

No one is perfect, but I believe that with the amount of crap that trans kids face in society that they would naturally band together simply due to their condition.

 

Something that is hilarious, is I am a giant, 6'9" to be exact, built. So when I am in the homophobic male dominated culture and this crap goes on, I simply state that I have been with a man for nine years and the fear closes their mouths. Its funny, how they go back and say oh I don't have a problem blah blah blah.

I wouldn't care if someone said they didn't like gays or what ever. But they never do. I Am not sensitive about it either.

It just proves they are cowards.

 

If they're segregated from the other kids, who the hell are they gonna band together against, besides each other?

 

Yeah, I know a really big guy who is gay as well, very masculine too. He has the same effect on bigoted idiots in person as well. .