Generation snowflake

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  1. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

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    Local govt jobs are FAAAAAAAAAAAAR different than federal jobs. But just creating a bunch of jobs paid for with taxes, isn't SOLVING ANYTHING. Its a FAKE fix to unemployment, because any taxes these people are spending are taxes we've ALREADY spent on employing them. Hey lets fix unemployment by using taxes to create jobs that are paid with the same taxes. DOn't you understand what a sham is?
     
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    Maybe. But I don't remember them talking about an income tax.

    It's sad how far we've drifted away from them.
     
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    There's no "maybe' about it. He wasn't talking about income tax because it didn't exist then. He most definitely was concerned about wealth distribution.
     
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    No they're not. They're all JOBS and they're all paid for by taxes. And they all produce things we need and they've all been scaled back.

    Losing those jobs means more people looking for the remaining jobs and that means higher unemployment and downward pressure on wages.

    And guess what? Those are generally lower paying (relatively speaking) jobs so the money spent on paying those wages goes directly back into the economy creating immediate demand.
     
  5. Junkieturtle

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    What's interesting is that folks actually think people supported Sanders because he was going to give them "free stuff". Ah, the ever elusive but always mentioned "free stuff".

    Wait a minute! Wait just one gulldern minute here fellas!

    Where do the health care and education initiatives get their funding? From taxes. And who pays taxes? Everyone! Yes that's right, income tax is not the only tax in existence.

    So it's really NOT "free stuff" that's bringing in the votes now is it? In reality, it's the idea that the government is best situated to provide access to services needed by folks without leaving those things up to private business or private charities. These are the people with their eyes wide open. These are the people who realize that no matter how much some of you may want to think we all live on our own islands and nothing we do affects other things in this country, that's simply not true. At all.

    But as is always the case here, nobody is talking about what the underlying problem is.

    Overpopulation. We have too many people. Folks want to blame the government for that while I rarely see anyone, left or right, talking about the real issue. In doctor's terms, this would be like singling out individual symptoms and assuming they are all caused by separate diseases, when in fact they are all born from the same one.
     
  6. sawyer

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  7. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think you know what a secured loan is and a student loan is not one.

    Secured Loan

    Secured loans are those loans that are protected by an asset or collateral of some sort. The item purchased, such as a home or a car, can be used as collateral, and a lien is placed on such item. The finance company or bank will hold the deed or title until the loan has been paid in full, including interest and all applicable fees. Other items such as stocks, bonds, or personal property can be put up to secure a loan as well.

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    Dems always cut military spending in favor of social programs
     
  8. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Illegals now have good fake ID sources and it's the governments job to secure the border in the first place. It's not employers jobs to be police. You should be able to assume every job applicant is here legally if your government was doing its duty.
     
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    They don't suck as bad but they started the ball rolling that's for sure. The snowflakes are the grandchildren of boomers and share the blame for creating this generation of fragile little babies
     
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    No its law enforcement job to be the poliece. These companies know what they are doing. Most illegals work off the books. These companies hires illegals because they are cheaper. This gives them a competitive advantage and they are able to undercut legitimate competitors. So if you are a legal immigrant or native lower working class you can't find a job because all of the legitimate businesses have been pushed out of the market by the ones that only hire illegals. LEO needs to come down hard on these businesses.
     
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    They are not really the grand children as much as they are the second children. But regardless it was dirty filthy hippies that created melenials. The decided that millenia of knowledge about parenting was all wrong and threw it all out in favor of wishful thinking. 'Oh it's all about self-esteem not accountability.' Now we see the results of a generation that thinks they are perfect just for being born and have never been held accountable in their life.
     
  12. sawyer

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    Only an arrogant overeducated fool would call construction work "low skilled labor". Let's see you build a house.
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Every generation has a group that defines it and this generation has the snowflakes but I agree they are not the entire generation and just like boomers who went to Nam instead of protesting with flowers in their greasy hair, the current generation has its members fighting for us in the Mideast or going to a job every day or going g to school in a plant to succeed in life. I don't paint them all with the snowflake label but the flakes are front and center and Bernie did as good as he did because of them

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    That's because you are a liberal and like the snowflakes and their values
     
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    Student loans are for all practical purposes as safe a bet for banks (if not safer) than secured loans. Student loans are one of the few loans that cannot be eliminated by bankruptcy. They are guaranteed by the government. There is no practical reason student loan rates should be higher than mortgage loan rates, except that the feds are trying to make money.
     
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    Unfortunately the flakes define the current generation where living with mom is the norm.
     
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    it secured in that if you default, the bank is not out their money, they just give the loan back to the feds

    these loans are pure profit for the banks.... no risk

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  17. sawyer

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    The new economy is brought to us by obama and his reworking our economy into his social agenda

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    Government encourages overpopulation with tax incentives and welfare raises
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You may want to rethink that.
    1970

    The daisy-wheel printer invented.
    The floppy disk invented by Alan Shugart.
    1971

    The dot-matrix printer invented.
    The food processor invented.
    The liquid-crystal display (LCD) invented by James Fergason.
    The microprocessor invented by Faggin, Hoff and Mazor.
    VCR or videocassette invented.
    1972

    The word processor invented.
    Pong first video game invented by Nolan Bushnell.
    Hacky Sack invented by John Stalberger and Mike Marshall.
    1973

    Gene splicing invented.
    The ethernet (local computer network) invented by Robert Metcalfe and Xerox.
    Bic invents the disposable lighter.
    1974

    The post-it notes invented by Arthur Fry.
    Giorgio Fischer, a gynecologist from Rome, Italy, invents liposuction.
    1975

    The laser printer invented.
    The push-through tab on a drink can invented.
    1976

    The ink-jet printer invented.
    1977

    Magnetic resonance imaging invented by Raymond V. Damadian.
    1978

    Dan Bricklin and Bob Frankston invented the VisiCalc spreadsheet.
    The artificial heart Jarvik-7 invented by Robert K. Jarvik.
    1979

    Cell phones invented.
    Cray supercomputer invented by Seymour Cray.
    Walkman invented.
    Scott Olson inven
     
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    "On April 15, Tax Day, Americans have paid the federal government an estimated $1.477 trillion–a slightly higher figure than the total value of outstanding student loans.
    Five days ago, the St. Louis Federal Reserve published a report titled “Student Loan Delinquency: A Big Problem Getting Worse?” The Fed determined that of the nearly $1.3 trillion in non-bankruptcy-dischargeable student loans, the delinquency rate for students in repayment is over 27 percent. With tuition at the University of California and other top schools growing faster than inflation, student loan default rates are skyrocketing"
     
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    It's not quite that simple and things have changed since 2010



    "Many former students have federally guaranteed student loans. These are different from private student loans that are not guaranteed by the government, and from loans issued directly to the student by the federal government (direct loans). As of June 30, 2010, Congress stopped the guaranteed student loan program for newly issued loans. But many people are still paying on their federally guaranteed student loans that were issued prior to June 30, 2010 -- so they'll be kicking around for many years to come."

    http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-is-federally-guaranteed-student-loan.html
     
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    that is good, if the gov guaranteed them, the gov should be handling them, not giving the profits to the banks
     
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    The all too obvious weakness of your position is exposed by the the desperation of your puerile response that failed to refute the facts contained in the Preamble.
     
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    They also will hire disabled Americans hard to employ off the books, I know, I took jobs for under the minimum wage and maybe lunch since that's all I could get doing work around businesses but its easier for a small business than a corporation to get this kind of work or from a department of a big company they all have a petty cash option to drop $40 to have me stuff mailers for them and a lunch voucher as a company guest for the cafeteria gave me a good meal. That was on the higher end. You underestimate the underground cash economy many are in it since they will give work when its hard to make it official with the added taxes and such to be concerned about.
     
  24. sawyer

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    Point is that program ended in 2010 and not all student loans were secured by the government even pre 2010. In the here and now student loans are unsecured and have a 27% default rate so interest has to be high
     
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    This nation has over 100,000 miles of borders. Taxes would be astronomical if we were to expect the government to patrol and control every inch of them to ensure that no one could arrive here illegally.

    The Law of the Land requires the employers verify eligibility of workers and if they fail to do they must be held accountable.
     

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