https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xiKqowqbOk#t=445 I love the line "we were founded by a bunch of slave owners who wanted to be free". There is more history in this bit than you get in most textbooks. Much like Zinn, Carlin tells it like it is, no holds barred. Happy New Year everyone.
I always love it when rightwingers say "We need to get back to the country the Founders envisioned when they wrote the Constitution"..... and you say "Okay, so women and non-property owners won't be able to vote. Some people will be counted as 3/5ths of a person. And slavery will be legal?" And sometimes you get a few who are honest and say "Yeah...damn straight!" (most want that, but don't say it out loud. ) Sort of reminds me of Blackadder interrogating Darling in World War-One about being a German spy and Capt. Darling protests "I'm as British as Queen Victoria"... and Blackadder says "So your father was German, you're half-German, and you're married to a German!"
The constitution was of course written by men who lived in a different time than we did, but even in that time these men realized that the nation would be better off giving the people the rights and processes to change the nation (or not) leaving the choices up to them not the government. This document allowed us to become the most powerful and free nation on earth. People try to live here not escape because of this document and what it represents. That's why many of us uphold the constitution and will always do so. We ended slavery and gave women voting rights because we had the means to do so. When people support the constitution it doesn't mean we want slavery back because slavery was acceptable in the time period it was written, it means we have a choice to define ourselves. The document proves that when a free society is given the chance to decide between slavery and no slavery and whether or not to give women the right to vote or not we ultimately had the means to make the correct decision. Did we not?
But again, do you want to go back to "The way the Founders envisioned America"? Or keep the PROGRESS that has been made since then???
How about just abolishing slavery and giving women the right to vote, Hoosier? Or do you oppose those?
