German Russian Gas Pipeline to Europe Faces Sanctions Under U.S. Defense Bill

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  1. pitbull

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    You're kidding. Hitler terrorized France with his Wehrmacht and the UK with bombs.
     
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    In war. Hitler admired french art and planned an alliance with the UK. He even allowed the Brits to leave Dunkirk against advice from his generals.
     
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    Dude you don't dictate price
     
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    Big words, coming from a Kekistani.
     
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    True words though
     
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    Did you grow up in Hamburg?

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    Or maybe Dresden?

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    What a wonderful history of losses your country has.

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    Pounding Germany into the ground like a tent stake. The worst thing we ever did was re-build it.
     
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    Natural born killers you say?
     
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    This was expected, the US was never going to sit around and watch Germany and Russia forge closer economic ties, Ukraine will be off the board and thus far Ukraine was used as an important piece against Russia. Nordstream sanctions are really just Ukraine conflict 2.0
     
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    So what is Trump waiting for? Why doesn't he just do what he said he would do and stop subsidizing Europe's defense? Because he's a liar? Because he's too afraid of the swamp?
     
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    Settle down Hillary.
     
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    When do fat and slim mean the same thing?
     
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    Hitler was always at war.

    Only not in the first 6 years. He needed time to upgrade his armed forces. But then he attacked most of Europe like a rabid dog.

    The Brits were lucky for having much water between their island and Hitler's country.
    And they could always successfully defend their airspace, which is why Hitler's bombers only could do little damage.

    The other way around British Avro Lancaster bombers turned Hitler's cities into piles of rubbish. They came at night and used the light lane surface of the Autobahns as navigation aid. So they nearly never missed a target. :)
     
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    Hitler had no cities. You talk about german cities. This exchange is over. I dont hold conversations with an anti german racist.

    One thing though, all cities in Germany are rebuild exactly as they were, while Uk turns more and more into rubbish.
     
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    Cologne 2019

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    Hamburg 2019

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    Dresden 2019

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    But your uncle is just dead you know. He did not come back, was ripped apart by german flag, burried in a foreign country. His mother could not visit his grave. For your family he just disappeared. :/

    And then your family had to witness that they got no revenge. Germany was set free, looks like before and became the hegemon of Europe. For decades you paid our defense with your tax money and now we spit in your face.

    Must be hard.
     
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    I do agree that nationalism is vibrant. Way too vibrant for my taste. I don't like what's been going on lately, not a bit.

    But seriously dude, get out of your social bubble and talk to someone other than your xenophobic friends. You're still far from being the majority.
     
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    Trump is fixing that. The Russians still have an axe to grind.
     
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    German government considers guys like @Sobo as dangerous as Jihadi terrorists.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...m-very-high-in-germany-minister-idUSKBN1WP22G
     
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    Sure and yet they are still beholden to those who are not elected.
     
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    Okay, then why nitpick over the source? Germany is clearly the dominant member of the EU regardless of who is saying it.

    Maybe, maybe not. But the fact remains, Germany is the dominant member of the EU. And Trump is needlessly ruining our relationship with Germany based on the same anti-Russian lunacy that's been deployed against him for years now.
     
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    Actually, the worst thing the US ever did was waste hundreds of thousands of American lives on defending the British and Soviet empires. US involvement in WWII basically saved the Stalinist regime from destruction. Patton realized this almost immediately after occupying Berlin. He said, "We may have been fighting the wrong enemy all along." Only people who do not understand the Germanic origins of American culture would celebrate the wanton destruction of Germany during WWII.
     
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    Its pretty clear you never read what Hitler thought about the United States if you think staying out would have saved us from invasion.

    In his Second Book, Hitler wrote about preparing its country and people for the ultimate battle with America. The final conflict for world hegemony would be fought between the Deutscher Reich Germanischer Nationas the German Weltmacht was to be known and the United States of America. This last battle would decide who was to rule the world – Berlin or Washington? Would totalitarianism or democracy win? Would the “bandit nations” manage to impose their model on the other countries.

    https://www.historia.ro/sectiune/general/articol/how-did-hitler-perceive-the-us
     
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    Can you provide a direct quote of what Hitler thought about the US or just some guy's interpretation of what he said?
     
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    Oh so he's lying about the book's content. I'm sure you have proof of this.

    What am I saying of course you don't.

    Here you go:

    The "fourth stage"[edit]
    See also: New Order (Nazism) § Hitler's plans for North America
    In contrast to Mein Kampf, in Zweites Buch Hitler added a fourth stage to the Stufenplan. He insinuated that in the far future a struggle for world domination might take place between the United States and a European alliance comprising a new association of nations, consisting of individual states with high national value.[3] Zweites Buch also offers a different perspective on the U.S. than that outlined in Mein Kampf. In the latter, Hitler declared that Germany's most dangerous opponent on the international scene was the Soviet Union; in Zweites Buch, Hitler declared that for immediate purposes, the Soviet Union was still the most dangerous opponent, but that in the long-term, the most dangerous potential opponent was the United States.[4]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zweites_Buch

    But wait there's more!

    There now appears as a dynamic actor in world history a new state which, as a truly European colony, has for centuries received the best Nordic forces of Europe by way of emigration; aided by the community of their original blood, these have built a new, fresh community of the highest racial value.
    It is no accident that the American Union is the state in which at the present time most inventions are being made by far, some of which are of an incredible boldness.
    Americans, as a young, racially select people, confront old Europe which has continually lost much of its best blood through war and emigration. Just as little as one can equate the accomplishment of one thousand degenerate Levantines in Europe, say in Crete, with the accomplishment of one thousand racially still more valuable Germans or Englishmen, so can one just as little equate the accomplishment of one thousand racially questionable Europeans to the capacity of one thousand racially highly valuable Americans.
    Only a conscious Völkisch race policy would be able to save European nations from losing the law of action to America, in consequence of the inferior value of European peoples vis-à-vis the American people.
    [...]
    The danger is especially great since, because of the complete indifference on our side, the American Union itself, inspired by the teachings of its own ethnologists, has established special standards for immigration.
    By making entry to American soil dependent on definite racial prerequisites on the one hand, as well as on the definite physical health of the individual as such, bleeding Europe of its best people has, indeed, perforce been legally regulated. This is something which our whole so-called national bourgeois world and all its economic politicians either do not see or, at least, will not hear of because it is unpleasant to them and because it is much cheaper to pass over these things with a couple of general national phrases.
     
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  25. Ethereal

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    I'm not saying one way or the other. I'm just asking you to provide direct quotes instead of some guy's opinion.

    Again, not a direct quote, but rather an interpretation of what was written.

    And what do you think this quote is supposed to prove?
     

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