Germans Believe Trump Poses Greater Threat to World Than N.Korean, Iranian Leaders - Poll

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  1. pitbull

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    After all, the fascism of others is too offensive, so that one's own fascists don't want to associate with them.
     
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    Who on earth designs and takes these prima facie silly polls????
     
  3. Sobo

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    Yeah because supporting ISIS is better than cheap gas from russia. Dude get off
     
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    And most powerful? Germany does not have the capability to mount an offensive attack outside its borders. How do you think they are so powerful. Do you have a secret navy hiding somewhere?
     
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    Well, that solves it.

    Germans are idiots.
     
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    Good.

    Let's start getting our troops and closing our bases in Germany.

    Ta ta.
     
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    Lol.

    Germany would get stomped by Russia.

     
  8. Dayton3

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    If Germany's economy is so strong, why do they want or need "cheap fuel"?
     
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    It's time for all US troops to leave Europe and South Korea. Can't stay forever and seventy years is long enough.
     
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    Instead of calling each other names, first I suggest everybody posting in this thread use Google to explore "how much does US LNG cost in Europe". There's LOTS of information that pops up when you do that, and a lot of it seems to contradict other news. As Pontius Pilate said, "What is truth?"

    But, based on what Germany has said, it would not be receiving more than thirty percent (30%) of its natural gas from Russia, precisely because Germany does not want to be put in a vulnerable situation -- by the Russians, or by anyone else!

    Look.... Germans (and all Europeans) are like everybody else in the world. They would like to be able to buy energy products at the best price possible, under the most favorable conditions. That is both logical, and reasonable, is it not...?

    If we Americans want to compete with Russia for the natural gas market in Germany (or anywhere else in Europe), we are the ones who must face the challenge of getting the natural gas out of the ground in North America, pumping it in our pipelines to locations where it can be 'liquefied', loading it on huge transport ships, sailing it half-way around the planet, and unloading it at storage facilities (many of which don't even exist in Europe yet). In juxtaposition, because the Russians have the advantage of close proximity to Germany, their challenge has simply been to lay an underwater pipeline to Germany so that all their German customers have to do is turn on a 'spigot'. Those are the realities!

    Now, Germany (and every other country in the world) should have the right to buy whatever they want from whomever they want. If we can agree that the situation is REALLY one in which the main issues are those of cost and competition, then we can focus on what is important and forget all this other crap that contributes nothing but anger and confusion to the situation....
     
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    If Trump has it way they is going to happen.
     
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    USA comes 1st, Germany comes 2nd.

    Germany has the 2nd most powerful economy in the western world. If we would stock up our defense to 2% of GDP we would have 2nd largest military in the world.

    Why would we want mount an offensive attack our border? Who should we attack? Switzerland?
     
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    That has the support of the majority of the german people.

    What i wonder...what does this psychological to you. You think you are so great and that you defend evryone bla bla. Now realizing you are basicly hated and diminished. How would you feel when your soldiers leave Germany and nobody gives a ****?

    Here were guys in this forum who demanded that Germany shows gratitude. I hope you dont cook up when you get zero gratitude.
     
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    Are you kidding me? The concept of capitalism is known to you?

    We are an industrial nation. The cheaper the fuel, the better. The cheaper the fuel, the bigger the profit.
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.
    Seeing how Germany would rather support Russia it’s probably a good thing to pull troops and assistance.
     
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    Great. There are voices here to kick you out of Rammstein Airbase.

    I think the future will have loose cooperation between our countries. No need to end this old alliance in a bad way but i think its time that our nations go their own way.
     
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    How do we support Russia?

    Gas from russia comes 30% cheaper. American LNG has to be liquified with extreme high energy demands, shiped over the atlantic and stored in LNG terminals (that are not even build yet in Germany).

    Tell me, why should be pay 30% more? Why should we build LNG terminals for something we can get without those terminals and pay 30% less for it?

    Tell me from practical point of view why we should ship our gas from american half around teh globe, when we can just tap it directly from Russia?

    Beside that, even in cold war, Russia never broke delivery with Germany. We see Trump breaking treaties after treaties. Who can promise us, that if we depend on american LNG, Trump doesnt use it as weapon against us to exploit us, like stoping delivery until we do as ordered? Do you have political fail safe options that would prevent him from doing that?
     
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    Who really cares? They're Germans. They think being dependent on Russian energy is a better idea than carbon free independent modern nuclear energy.
     
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    Cool story bro Germany can't the US out due to agreements some of which go all the wya back to WW2. When or If the US military comes out of Germany, it is going to be on America's terms only.
     
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    He is a deluded and demented goon, however if Germans want to throw away 70 years of an alliance based on the actions of one person, then what does that say about the Germans? When and if the next time Russians attack Germany suddenly the Americans will become your best friends? Hopefully for Germany's sake I hope that Merkle and Co. think this one out rationally and realize what is at stake here. Be careful for what you wish for; you might get it.
     
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    Thats quite easy actually. Once you get the leave note, you leave. Otherwise you get cutt off from energy, water and communication grid.

    We can cancel agreements.

    Im sure as a freedom loving american you agree that when a nation asks you to leave, you just do that. And not just that, you will also pay to bring the nature on the airbase back to health.
     
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    The attacks against Germany (like sanctioning a german energy project) are not done by Trump alone. This alliance is old and its obvious its best for both nations to go seperate ways. Doesnt mean we have to become enemies.
     
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    If Germany's economy is so strong why would they need to bother seeking bigger profits?
     
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    Not the way I see it in regards to the United States.
     
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    Because we are capitalist. When you can earn more, you do it. :)
     

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