Germany forges a united vote against USA in UN meeting at Thursday

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  1. Sobo

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    Yesterday the UN security council voted 14:1 against trumps Israel decission. The only no vote came from USA itself.

    Tomorrow the entire UN council will vote for a new resolution against the USA and the the USA has no veto right.

    USA already starts threats against other nations and says they will remember who will vote against them.

    Meanwhile Germany already said it will vote against USA and since UK, France and Italy also vote against USA its expected Merkel achieves a complete EU No vote against USA.

    http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/...rusalem-usa-riyad-al-maliki-mevluet-cavusoglu
     
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    Trump is a disaster felt round the world!
     
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    Well I can't read your paper but if they are as you say threatening people that if they go by their conscience they will be punished for it, if that is true, they have nothing left.
     
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    Here its in english

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-nations-vote-to-reject-jerusalem-recognition

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    The US ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, has warned UN members she will be “taking names” of countries that vote to reject Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

    In a letter seen by the Guardian, Haley told countries – including European delegations – that she will report back to the US president with the names of those who support a draft resolution rejecting the US move at the UN general assembly on Thursday, adding that Trump took the issue personally.

    Haley writes: “As you consider your vote, I encourage you to know the president and the US take this vote personally.

    “The president will be watching this vote carefully and has requested I report back on those who voted against us,” she continued.

    Haley followed the letter by tweeting: “At the UN we’re always asked to do more & give more. So, when we make a decision, at the will of the American ppl, abt where to locate OUR embassy, we don’t expect those we’ve helped to target us. On Thurs there’ll be a vote criticizing our choice. The US will be taking names.”"

    You cant sink deeper than that
     
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    Trump is a bully and Haley is his mouthpiece. I hope the UN gives Trump the one-finger salute, myself.
     
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    Talk of desperation.
     
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    Well Trump is drawing a line.... he's saying this is important to me, you're on my side or you're not. I don't personally like Trump but I do believe he will follow through on his threat. For a country like Germany it may not matter but smaller countries dependent on the US economy and assistance will feel the pressure.
     
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    Time for the US to leave both the UN and NATO. Germany will then be free to open wide for Russian fuel and natural gas.
     
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    Shame on Germany - as usual.
     
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    I hope merkel keeps going on this path of idiocy; she is basically acting as putin's puppet.

    I also hope german tax payers enjoy paying A LOT more to support their new muslim migrants, and for their new military bills which will no longer be subsidized by the US taxpayer.

    1.5% of your GDP on the military? Good luck defending against russian attacks and interference with that, let alone EU sovereignty.

    Can't wait to hear the euros like this come screaming for US help like they did with Libya, when they couldn't even figure out how to deal with a single 3rd world dictator.
     
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    You might want to remember the US pays 22% of the UN budget, and about 1/2 on many humanitarian missions. Hope the Euros are getting ready to pony up those billions. No more talking without walking...
     
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    So do you believe that the President of the US is Dictator of the world?

    Bye the way according to Lilienthal in What Price Israel the exact same bribery and blackmail was needed to get the Partition Plan through.
     
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    AGREE.
     
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    I believe the US exercise enormous financial & political influence over the world. Btw China does the same, they blackmailed South Korea re Thaad and Russia would likely be worse than the US if they had the influence. I think Alexa you are fixated on the US
     
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    She apparently sent them letters telling them this and that they would lose aid.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...rs-ahead-of-jerusalem-vote-trump-is-watching/

    I thought she had said this. If she has done it by sending them letters as Haaretz apparently says, then it looks like people are being honest about the US threatening them to make them vote against their conscience. It really makes the US look the bully people have been saying...but to show you are the bully so publicly, only Trump could do that.
     
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    SO, the vassal states are acting up!! No wonder we have to wire tap them and spy on their phones, like Merkel. We always do these things for your own good. And now, our vassal states are ingrates?

    Vassal states should always approach the Empire on bended knee. Now they are acting too uppity. Don't they understand that we are protecting them from the evil Russians? And we could just allow putin to conquer them? For surely you know that Russia is planning on ruling the world, and like hitler is a great threat. How do we know this to be true? Oh, our intel will tell you this all day long and twice on sunday. And our intel has never got it wrong, nor would they ever tell a lie. Any proof that they have got things wrong or lied, is of course a conspiracy theory. A term they coined in the interest of the false, a way to hide conspiracies.

    Perhaps the American Empire, the empire of a corporate state, an empire ruled by rich elites, and their puppets, congress, is wearing thin on our vassal states? That we flooded Europe with an 8th century culture, creating problems, a pox on European high culture, is the madness of our neocon driven foreign policy, and good for our vassal states.

    So looks like our NSA will be watching Europe really close. Wonder what dirt we can get on key politicians over there? Yes, we love dirty pool. Just look at how the dems and GOPhers treat one another. We are even worse when it comes to our vassal states. Gonna take lots of bended knees to fix this.

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    Thing is if anyone does vote with the US tomorrow everyone will just think they are cowards!
     
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    I guess we can recognize anything we want, including Jerusalem and we can certainly put our own embassy where we want to. F.. Europe.
     
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    Germany votes against Jews? Say it ain't so.
     
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    what will happen is the vote will be unofficially invalid, like the Russian election, everyone knows it's fake
     
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    Russia is an economic dwarf against Germany. Also keep in mind we domnt share your paranoia. And with a 40 billion € budget surplus we can afford stuff.

    As for Libya, Germany voted against any intervention and said Gaddafi is ok, when he is gone Libya will collapse into chaos. As usual we were right.
     
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    I know I was thinking they would need to quickly arrange for a secret ballot.
     
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    We vote what we think is in our interest.
     
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    The world doesn't need the American government. They are about to go bankrupt. Oh yeah the federal reverse owes Germany a crap load of gold.
     
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    No, listen to what Trump said.

    Trump said; "They take hundreds of millions of dollars and even billions of dollars, and then they vote against us," he told reporters at the White House.

    He didn't make any distinction between aid to some poor country or billion dollar economic ties with China, the UK, France or whatever major power.

    Trumplation; that means any country that has any financial ties with the US, in whatever form, might be punished for their anti-US vote.

    What's happening here is what you could have guessed was coming all along;
    the longer this, mostly unimpeded, reckless behavior of Trump is tolerated the worse it will get. Or the more arrogant he will get. A bit like that in-famous Austrian dude.

    He could have said; f**k you, instead of we don't care and you would not have been surprised any more.

    Now he's blackmailing the entire international community.

    Also, I think he has Jerald Kushner in mind; This is a message to Mueller. Don't touch my Jewish son-in-law with your Russia enquiry because I'm gonna be very upset!

    Is it a surprise that Trump suddenly ignites this Jewish embassy issue, right after Kushner has been named in Muellers enquiry? Think NOT!

    That might sound far-fetched but this how Trump thinks. If think is the applicable word here. More like insidious anger.

    Not that it will make any difference.
     
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