Germany set to send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine, Der Spiegel reports

Hitler declared war on the U.S. Has Putin declared war on the U.S. or NATO countries? What other country after WW2 declared war on the US? How many countries has the US invaded since WW2?

 

DO WE NOW!?
Where?

You’re going to link us to where “the FBI said it”, right?

We know that there was an authentic Hunter Biden laptop left with a Massachusetts psychologist in 2018; this guy was buddies with Roger Stone. Then six months later “someone” delivers a “water damaged MAC laptop” to the repaid shop.

But Roger Stone’s probably not smart enough to hatch a plan like that, huh?

 

Germany starts testing RCH-155 artillery systems, Ukraine to receive them first

Ukrainska Pravda
Tue, February 7, 2023 at 6:28 AM CST

The Bundeswehr has begun testing a new self-propelled artillery system, the RCH-155 [Remotely Controlled Howitzer – ed.], Ukraine will be the first country to order them.

Source: Welt news agency, reports European Pravda

Details: The 155-mm system is similar to the Panzerhaubitze 2000, but is constructed on a Boxer wheeled vehicle. Germany, together with the Netherlands, has supplied 14 units of Panzerhaubitze to Ukraine. The next generation of howitzers for the Bundeswehr is now being procured.

... https://news.yahoo.com/germany-starts-testing-rch-155-122828154.html​

More goodies from Germany!

 

Hitler declared war on Jews like Comrade Putler on the Ukrainians.
Ukrainian Prez. Zelensky had Jewish ancestors.
Did you get that?

 

So this war in Ukraine is about Jews because Russians hate Jews? Did Putin declare war on Jews in Russia? When should we expect a Crystal Night to take place in Russia?

 

Not surprising the MIC is using Ukraine to test out new military weapons. They did the same in Iraq.

 

Same as ruZZia's MIC is doing.

 

The West should have supported Czechoslovakia's resistance to Hitler before WW II. That would have been the end of Hitler and the Nazi regime.
Ukraine is very like Czechoslovakia as an obstacle to Russian aggression.

 

Comrade Putler declared war on "Ukrainian Nazis", leaded by the Jew Zelensky. Please don't ask me, ask Pooteen what he means by Jewish Nazis.

 

It's a war for ruZZian supremacy. Therefore it's an unlawful war. Evil ruZZians must be destroyed, for the sake of all mankind!

 

'is using'? Those things are't likely to get to Ukraine before 2025, and based on the history of weapons systems development that is optimistic. So, no one 'is using' this in Ukraine or will be anytime soon.

There are reports Russia 'is using' Ukraine to tgest out new systems, but you are hardly going to complain about that.

 

That is how most experts see it. Either Putin's aggression is completely stopped and pushed back in Ukraine or he will move on to WW3. Russia, with it's collapsing demographics, feels the survival of their nation depends upon it and they are probably right. Ukraine is not the end goal, it is just on the way to the end goal, so either we make sure he never wins in Ukraine or Putin will try to plug the geographic gaps by attacking NATO.

 

I do have to wonder. He must know, though, that NATO severely outclasses the Russian military, and they're not going to back down and let him have land just because he makes nuclear threats. Putin has shown himself to be rational even in the present conflict, even if he is evil and callously destroys so many lives. He is still going about it rationally like a cold-blooded, calculating killer, and not a madman, so he must know that war with NATO is a non-starter.

 

NATO’s slow march towards Russia since 91 was seen as threatening and aggressive by the Russians. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was forewarned by Putin prior to 2014.

 

I agree with what you are saying except the idea Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet Union which means rebuilding the iron curtain. The Soviet Union collapsed trying to finance the satellite countries. Putin knows Russia cannot afford to do this. A neutral Ukraine would have eased Russia’s concerns with the demographics. Russia is fighting for their survival which now makes this a very dangerous situation where Russians feel they have everything to lose if Ukraine will not agree to stay neutral but insist on joining NATO.

 

The Russian invasion of Ukraine began in 2014.

“CRIMEA’S ILLEGAL ANNEXATION
Ukraine’s Maidan Revolution ended in late February 2014, when President Victor Yanukovych fled Kyiv — later to turn up in Russia — and the Rada (Ukraine’s parliament) appointed an acting president and acting prime minister to take charge. They made clear their intention to draw Ukraine closer to Europe by signing an association agreement with the European Union.

Almost immediately thereafter, armed men began occupying key facilities and checkpoints on the Crimean peninsula. Clearly professional soldiers by the way they handled themselves and their weapons, they wore Russian combat fatigues but with no identifying insignia. Ukrainians called them “little green men.” President Vladimir Putin at first flatly denied these were Russian soldiers, only to later admit that they were and award commendations to their commanders.

The sizeable Ukrainian military presence in Crimea stayed in garrison. If shooting began, Kyiv wanted the world to see the Russians fire first. Ukraine’s Western partners urged Kyiv not to take precipitate action.”
BROOKINGS, Crimea: Six years after illegal annexation, Ukraine lacks the leverage to restore sovereignty over Crimea, at least for the foreseeable future. But that does not mean the West should accept it. Doing so might only encourage the Kremlin to believe that taking the territory of other countries is an action that it can get away with., By Steven Pifer, March 17, 2020.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/orde...17/crimea-six-years-after-illegal-annexation/

See "Munich Agreement" 9/30/1938. What happened next was predictable and catastrophic.

 

I am very familiar with the western point of view. I lived in Germany for 3 years in the 70’s as a teen and learned this in high school. Have you taken the time to understand Russia’s point of view on this?

 

I think we all understand their point of view. It's wrong and we oppose it.

 

How did the Western view of the communist threat from Vietnam turn out?

 

Vietnam is a friendly, pro-Western, non-Communist country these days. You could ask them if you like. Maybe ask the South Koreans, the Ukrainians, the Latvians, the Lithuanians, the Poles, the Czechs and many others what they think while you're at it.

 

We lost, they won and yet no communist invasion from Vietnam or China after we pulled out in 1975. Can’t wait to hear your spin on that.

 

That's a very Communist perspective. We didn't lose. Nixon agreed to withdraw US forces after signing the Paris Peace Accords.

 

Perhaps if we had flown off the roof top of the US Embassy in South Korea and left it to the Koreans to have their civil war like Vietnam and like our own country things would be very different in Korea today? Maybe more like Vietnam? I guess we’ll never know just like we’ll never know what Europe would be like today if we hadn’t kept it divided with NATO.

 

Europe seems pretty well united to me. Also free, prosperous and happy.

 

Noted.