We indeed got some crazy people here in Germany, but the craziest of them is Attila Hildmann. He once was a relatively successful vegan chef. Mr. Hildman wrote cookbooks, campaigned for animal welfare, and made a lot of money from that. But shortly after Coronavirus hit our country, something happened that completely upset this guy. At first, he only resisted measures against infections. Then he completely denied the coronavirus. Soon after that, he claimed that the Jews were behind the pandemic, and now he's denying the Holocaust! Here's an example of what he wrote on Telegram: https://t.me/ATTILAHILDMANN/47679 (German language) Irrational fears lead to anti-Semitism and then to Holocaust denial.
Some Germans apparently think that fascism still belongs to Germany. Antifa still has a lot to do. But we'll get it done.
RE: Germany's new Star on Holocaust Denier Heaven SUBTOPIC: Fascism ⁜→ pitbull, et al, BLUF: This is one of those political movements which was abused over a century ago with Benito Mussoline (1920). But I wasn't sure what was actually implied when one says "Fascism." So, I looked up the definition - and - I am still not sure what is implied. (COMMENT) Using the Routledge Dictionary of Politics*, in addition to the standard line that Fascism was adopted by villainous Political Parties, is said: I'm not sure what that tells me. _________________________ *Published by: Routledge, Taylor and Franci Group © 2004 David Robertson, London & New York Most Respectfully, R
Hildmann is a total nutcase completely out of touch with reality. The guy is so caught up in his parallel universe that he should seek medical help. I for one think the less attention he gets, the better it is. He had some kind of 15 minutes fame last summer during some Covid denying rallies, last thing I've read he's now wanted by the police because he seriously threatened a couple of people demanding they should be executed publicly. If you understand German and are looking for a real good laugh, look up Oliver Kalkofe's parody.
Congrats Atilla... better to wake up late than never. Or maybe he's an undercover government agent... lots of those in right-wing groups. .
I don't quite understand why a thread about an eccentric German citizen is located in the Middle East section. It appears, rather, that your OP has more to do with denigrating the "crazy" German people as well as the billions of rational & well informed people around the world who reject the physically & scientifically impossible standard holocaust narrative for solid reasons that have nothing to do with anti Semitism. Yes, there are far more people around the world(1) who do not believe the profitable "product" marketed by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry(2), (3) than have been duped into believing Hollywood - Holocaust Industry produced myths about homicidal "vaporizers"(5), gas, steam and electrocution chambers(4) and other related Allied propaganda fodder(6) that has now been proven to be completely false. Even the term "holocaust denier" is a deliberately deceptive misnomer since very few accused of that unique "thought crime" deny that the holocaust happened. Instead, those who have studied the tragic event do not deny that murderous Bolsheviks, common criminals, Communists revolutionaries, the Roma, Jews and others were interred in camps where most deaths were attributed to disease rather than a fictitious mass execution program(7). While it is at least naive to believe that only the "other side" used propaganda, what is commonly called "Holocaust denial" is simply recognizing the hard fact that the Allies used atrocity propaganda to demoralize the WW 2 era Germans at the same time a blatantly corrupt Holocaust Industry has succeeded in deceiving gullible "Hollywood educated" rubes, extorting $ Billions and cheating deserving holocaust survivors. Please clarify if your intent is to discuss Attila Hildmann, the Middle East or the holocaust. Thanks, (1) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS” https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/ EXCERPT “ Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust." - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED (2) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED (3) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.” ”CONTINUED (4) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death" https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/ EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED (5) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts" http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED (6) “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts” http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED 15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606. (7) “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.” - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190
I did this because your Holocaust Denial thread "About the Holocaust" is there too. I just jumped one level up and started a new thread.
Atti thinks he's a freedom fighter, but he's just a big moron. He's been wanted by arrest warrant for a few days because approval or denial of Nazi crimes is a criminal offense in Germany. They assume he's currently hiding somewhere in Turkey.
I didn't start the thread "About the Holocaust", a Poster named @stan1990 did. It is located at: http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/about-the-holocaust.552312/ and I submitted the last comment on 9 February 2021 to which neither you nor anyone else responded. That comment was: Very few people around the world deny that the holocaust happened in that Communists, Jews, resistance fighters, genuine criminals and other real or perceived threats to National Socialist Germany were interred in work camps where some were executed but most died of typhus etc. On the other hand, the vast majority of people who know anything about the holocaust do not believe(1) the grossly exaggerated residual Allied propaganda - Holocaust Industry narrative about "industrialized mass murder", homicidal gas, steam or electrocution chambers, human skin lampshades and other grisly fables generated by the fraudulent & corrupt Holocaust Industry(2), (3). If the fraudulent Holocaust Industry would knowingly cheat holocaust survivors and deliberately defraud the German government, doesn't it make sense that it would lie about body counts and other details for the more effective & profitable marketing of its product? Additionally, unless you're so naive as to believe that only the "other" side used propaganda, you would know that the filming/production of recently liberated camps was done not by the Engineering Corps but by US propagandists in the OWI (Office of War Information) and Hollywood movie producers(4) whose grisly excesses have long been debunked. For example, Billy Wilder's sensationalized "The Death Mills" features the long debunked lies about human fat soap, human skin lampshades, human skin pocketbooks and numerous fictitious killing contraptions. It should be noted that the mission of the OWI was to help lift Allied morale at home and in war and at the same time demoralize the Germans with lies about mass murder programs and fictitious atrocities. So what does America do with its war time propaganda when the war is over? It continued to demoralize and humiliate the German people via Hollywood and similar fictions(5) with the same lies about mass murder crimes and fictitious atrocities while hiding acts of Allied mass murder & Allied atrocities(6). Meanwhile the avaricious Holocaust Industry employs these same propaganda lies to enrich itself and work with Hollywood to deceive Americans too gullible to realize that when the victors write the history, truth becomes the first casualty. (1) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS” https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/ EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust." - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED (2) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE" http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED (3) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED (4) "The Hollywood Directors Who Filmed the Liberation of Nazi Concentration Camps" https://hyperallergic.com/426644/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/ EXCERPT "George Stevens, John Ford, and Samuel Fuller, best known for their work in Hollywood, all documented the Allied liberation at the end of the war. But during this period of war, they were acting less as artists than as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services.CONTINUED (5)"Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war. No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out. Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED (6) “Buried Alive Screaming In The Night: German POW Survivors Describe Eisenhower’s Extermination Camps After WWII Had Ended” https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2018...ers-extermination-camps-after-wwii-had-ended/ EXCERPT “The Western Allies deliberately murdered approximately 1 million disarmed German POWs by means of starvation, exposure, and illness. This Allied atrocity was first publicly exposed in 1989 in the book Other Losses by James Bacque. Bacque estimates in Other Losses that the victims undoubtedly number over 790,000, almost certainly over 900,000, and quite likely over a million. The prisoners’ deaths were knowingly caused by army officers who had sufficient resources to keep these prisoners alive. Relief organizations such as the Red Cross that attempted to help prisoners in the American camps were refused permission by the army. “CONTINUED --------------------------------------------------------------- If your intent is to discuss the holocaust, why not simply respond to either that comment or the one I just submitted on your new thread? By the way, I do not deny that the holocaust happened so I am not a "Holocaust denier". The whole practice of quibbling over what constitutes "Holocaust denial" is simply a transparent tactic to evade substantive discussion. If you would like to discuss the holocaust all you need to do is respond to either of the comments I have submitted on this thread or the one, "About the Holocaust" However, if your intent is to discuss Attila Hildmann or vegan cooking there is likely to be limited interest.
We have similar haters right here in America. Congresswoman Marjory Greene supported the idea that a laser from space controlled by Jews started mass fires. Most days it doesn’t seem to matter if you’re far right or far left, there is always agreement among many especially on either fringe, that the Jews are responsible for pretty much everything. Covid, wildfires, inflation, deflation, no flation, etc.....
I'm sorry. I got the impression you are the dominant person on this thread. So I mistakenly believed that you created it. I agree that HC Deniers are an absolute minority. This thread is only about a very specific HC Denier: Attila Hildman. However, he's the most offensive Jew-hater our small country has seen since the death of Adolph Hitler.
I heard of this girl. Jews seem to be the eternal scapegoats. Even pretty women like MT Greene become victim to anti-Semitic bullshit talk. Will hostility against Jews ever come to an end?
Hard to imagine it ending anytime soon, considering it comes from all directions. I’m a follow the money kind of guy. Jews, for the most part have been very successful. As a group they foster hard work and family. For their relatively small percentage of the world’s population, through their efforts, they have gained a lot of money, power and influence. I believe that creates a lot of resentment, jealousy, hate and all the things that come with it. I guess for some, if you can’t beat them you can kill them.
Re: No problem. I can see how you might have gotten that impression since I can't remember when @stan1990 posted on that thread. Re: While I find that attempting to label people unhelpful, I will go as far to say that many people confuse the terms "Holocaust denier" (people who deny that the holocaust happened at all) with "Holocaust revisionist " (people who believe that the holocaust happened but that it has been grossly exaggerated beyond the truth). I do think that there are very few people who feel that the holocaust did not happen at all but according to the ADL study I have frequently cited(1), there are many more people around the world who are Holocaust revisionists than there "Holocaustians" (people who have been professionally deceived into believing that about 6 million Jews & 5 million others were systematically exterminated in vaporizers(2), gas, steam and electrocution(3) chambers according to a "Final Solution"). In other words, according to that ADL study, there are far more Holocaust revisionists around the world than there are Holocaustians. I do not know the sentiments of Attila Hildmann but Holocaust revisionism or attempting to view WW 2 in a factual and objective light has nothing to do with reprehensible anti Semitism. Among other things, it is simply a willingness to recognize hard facts like the reality that the Allies used atrocity propaganda as widely during WW 2 as they did during WW 1. US propagandists at the OWI (Office of War Information), for example, were responsible for fabricating myths about homicidal gas chambers(4) while the Soviet propagandists manufactured myths about homicidal electrocution chambers etc. At any rate, one would have to be at least naive if not especially gullible to think that only the "other" side used propaganda during and after WW 2. Do you have any examples of Hildmann's true hatred of Jews because I had never heard of the guy until you posted this thread? Thanks, (1) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS” https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/ EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust." - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED (2) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts" http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED (3) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death" https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/ EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts” http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED 15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.
I'm a vegetarian and a German citizen too. That makes me a 2/3 Hitler. Please visit his Telegram channel: https://t.me/ATTILAHILDMANN and his media platform: https://wtube.org/user/ATTILA_HILDMANN
That's right, he was Austrian and didn't look German... not a single blond hair on him! BTW., Attila Hildmann said: “Ich habe mit keinem Wort gesagt, ich hätte etwas gegen Juden!”
Thanks for the links. I wasn't able to access much from the first one but looked through the second one and did some research of my own. While I did see some anti Semitic stuff, anti vaxer assertions and other nutty musings, I did not see enough of Hildmann's writings to do with Holocaust denial or Holocaust revisionism that would make him a " Star on Holocaust denier Heaven". Do you know of anything he has written that has to do with Holocaust revisionism / Holocaust denial otherwise, why call him a "New star on Holocaust denier Heaven"?
Maybe he said that 2 or 3 months ago. But now he holds the Jews responsible for almost every misfortune in the world. An anti-Semite goes through a process of maturation. It starts very slowly, almost unnoticed by the person himself. But then it goes faster and faster. Burning hatred of Jews develops, which in the case of the historical Nazis turned into mass murder.
Attila Hildmann is one of the cheekiest and most direct Jew-haters we have ever had here in Germany after WW2. Ursula Haverbeck and Horst Mahler look like beginners compared to him. If you understand spoken German, then listen to this: https://wtube.org/user/ATTILA_HILDMANN/kKJkUvF
