Ginni Thomas urged Arizona Republicans to overturn 2020 result – report

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    She has political power, she is the wife of a Supreme Court Justice.

    Give me just one other example, in all of the West, where the wife or husband of a Supreme Court Justice tries to overturn a democratic election.

    Just one more.

    This kind of political perversion worthy of a banana republic can only happen in the Trump nation.

    And you voted for it.
     
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    Yup they did. For which part was it? Oh yeah stopping proceedings, and not the overthrowing the government part.
     
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    I won't nitpick....even though stopping that proceeding part was the first required step in the overthrowing the government part...
     
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    And yet that’s the only step that occurred or was planned for. Face it, while you LOVE they they were charged under that law, you also know it wasn’t for trying to overthrow a government, but you will portray it otherwise(already have) and that pony will be ridden until the day you die.

    Have a fantastic weekend.
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Completely untrue.. the insurrection was a small, but necessary part of the overall plan..

    You too!! Congrats to Man City for their win.. very exciting..
     
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    He's never had credibility. He's pure scum. Birds of a feather married in this case.
     
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    Trump refused to call for back-up when the mob attacked hundreds of Capitol police officers (which is dereliction of duties).
    Trump put a target on his own VP's back and manipulated that mob to go to the Capitol. He called it a "lovefest".
    Trump and Giuliani called Senators (while they were barricaded in various offices) to get them to stop the certification.

    I don't believe that any of the people used in that way knew what the plan was but Powell, Giuliani, Meadows and Trump knew. They planned it which is why Trump didn't follow through on walking with them to the Capitol. He said it was because the Secret Service advised against it but I'd bet his lawyer(s) advised it so he would have plausible deniability.

    What do you think they were trying to do that day?
     
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    Turn the US into a dictatorship to appease a seditious orange dotard who wasn’t man enough to admit he lost the election.
     
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    Not that I was rooting for it (much) or that it was likely they would get him, but it would have been interesting, constitutionally, if the mob had hung Mike Pence that day.

    How is the election certified if the President of the Senate is dangling??

    However, it's likely it would have achieved the goal of not certifying the election that day, which would have been a win for sedition...
     
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    Pence being kidnapped or hanged wouldn't have paused the certification indefinitely. The thing that concerns me the most is that some people in this country are trying to reinvent history as if it was just some tomfoolery. Our seated President literally watched and did nothing to help those officers or the lawmakers that were pleading with Ivana and Meadows to urge him to get them back-up. That's not politics. That's deranged.
     
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    And still isn't.
     
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    Maybe yes... maybe no.. Who knows what would have happened in either of those scenarios??

    T**** declares martial law, as he declares the country isn't safe (due to him) and ipso ****to....

    Ever hear of a queen sacrifice?

    (And wouldn't THAT description drive Pence nuts)

    I'm tired of talking (and listening) about the deranged former POTUS... I want to see what the 1/6 committee has to say.... 3 more weeks....
     
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    Indeed, trump will never act like a man. He’s a coward who lacks the values of real men.
    Everything he says and does reveals what a crippled failure he is.
    I’m surprised anyone would listen to this buffoon for anything.
     
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    Basically, the succession would be the President pro tempore of the Senate acts as President of the Senate if the VPOTUS is unavailable or unwilling for any reason. This has happened at least 10 times in US history, 9 times when the Vice Presidency was vacant, and at least once when the sitting Vice President simply chose not to participate (Hubert Humphrey in 1969).
     
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    Sure.... if you can get the Senate and House back in session, with the still warm head of the VP on a spike in front of the main entrance to the Capitol (bet his hair would still look perfect though)
     
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    IOW, Ginni Thomas protested election rigging in AZ.
    That is a good thing. Honest Democrats and Republicans should join her.
     
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    Coerced confessions are not evidence of guilt.
     
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    Guilty pleas are.....
     
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    The motives of the FBI/secret police agents that organized and enabled the entry into the Capitol are still unknown.
    It is assumed that they were setting the Trump supporters up for prosecution. There may have been more to it than that.
     
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    No, they are not. Coerced confessions and testimony are not evidence of guilt.
    They are evidence of a corrupt criminal justice system.

    "In 1935 he became Procurator General of the USSR, the legal mastermind of Joseph Stalin's Great Purge. Although he acted as a judge, he encouraged investigators to procure confessions from the accused. In some cases, he prepared the indictments before the "investigation" was concluded.[19] In his Theory of Judicial Proofs in Soviet Justice (Stalin Prize in 1947) he laid a theoretical base for the Soviet judicial system, based on Marxist–Leninist principles, giving it a strong bias towards dialectical and collectivist thinking. Vyshinsky recommended that investigators and judges consider "the wider social perspective" of each individual case in the context of class struggle. As a result, an actual commission of a crime was not required for conviction: people could have been convicted for being perceived as bourgeois ("class responsibility") or simply if that was considered to be beneficial for the Communist Party, for example in the "educational" role of the judicial system (thus, the importance of show trials, even with completely false[citation needed][dubiousdiscuss] accusations). ... Perhaps based on this practice, in which according to Vaksberg, Stalin personally gave direction on the use of confessions and the use of the death penalty,[citation needed][dubiousdiscuss] Vyshinsky is cited for the principle that "confession of the accused is the queen of evidence".[21] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Vyshinsky
     
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    Uhh.. news flash, sparky.... this happened in the USA.....

    From Russia, go left about 5000 miles...
     
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    Here you go. You're welcome. /smdh

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    The old DP Game of Thrones fantasy of Bush's head on a pike updated for political expediency.

    , Game of Thrones,' HBO Sorry For Putting Bush's Head on Pike, By Sharon Waxman, June 14, 2012.
    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/game-thrones-hbo-sorry-putting-bushs-head-pike-061150975.html
     
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    LOL! You think I am a "conservative"? You need to read my posts much more carefully. ;-)
     
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