Giuliani gave Hunter Biden story to New York Post because 'nobody else would take it' at face value

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  1. Lesh

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    So Biden supposedly made all these billions but none of it shows up in his RELEASED taxes

    Where is it... in Trumps secret Chinese bank account?
     
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    Meanwhile it is Thursday October 22, 2020 and the Biden camp continues to insist this is not Hunter's laptop........oh wait.........still waiting.
     
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    1. Riots, murders & destruction of property happens on occasion under any Presidential administration.
    2. Trump is too friendly with Russians--far more so than any President in American history. But the manner in which he does so makes it more suspicious. He meets in secret with Russian ambassadors & their cohorts, already known for their involvement in spying, & does so with no record of their discussions. No President has ever done that before. We don't know whether Trump shared Top Secret info with Russians or not. How can we know? How can we trust a man know by everyone to be a consummate liar? He invited Russia to interfere in the national election of 2016, & they did beginning on the day after his invitation. During four years of his term of office, Trump has refused repeatedly to do anything at all to prevent Russia from repeating their interference of 2016. so now they're doing it again. Trump deserved what he got with the Russian investigations. There was evidence enough to impeach him & convict him. Unfortunately, he & McConnell controlled the Senate, so no fair hearing was allowed, & no conviction either, though is was absolutely deserved.
    3. Those in charge in the states you refer to, were mayors & governors who wanted to protect all American's right to protest. There were militant outsiders infiltrating the peaceful protesters, who did a lot of bad property damage. Those militants should have been arrested & punished, but the leaders felt they had insufficient forces available to them to successfully intercede during the early days of protests. I agree, it became a mess. But if we settle for killing peaceful protests every time violent elements infiltrate those protests, then it becomes easy for any militant group to kill all open protests, & we all lose that right. It's easy to find fault, but harder to solve problems when you're the one in charge. What would you have done in these cases? Would you have felt the right to open, peaceful protests was expendable?
    4. During the couple of months prior to the protests, several innocent black individuals had been murdered by local police forces for no good reason. It turned out to be examples illustrating a long term problem across the nation. In none of these cases were police held accountable for those murders. That provoked understandable anger in the black communities. These issues need to be seriously addressed & fixed. In a few municipal communities, they have been, but in most the status quo remains intact, which is unacceptable. I don't blame the black community for their anger. I blame law enforcement agencies for failing to fix this long ago. I blame them for continuing to resist positive action. Trump won't fix it. He doesn't care how many innocent blacks get slaughtered. Biden cares & will do something about it. That's one of many reasons I support Biden.
     
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    You describe as sort of Utopia, and all empirical evidence shows Utopia is not an option. Your optimism has a nice fuzzy and warm feeling about it, but all of mankind's history shows it to be not in compliance with the human condition. I used to share your idealism, but no more.

    I think George Washington was closer to the truth in comparing government to fire: it is a useful servant but a fearsome master.
     
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    But, of course, they didn't investigate it. That would be too much work and would hurt their candidate. As it turns out the scandal appears to be true. But then, we expect corruption from politicians, don't we?, so no big deal.
     
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    Nothing new with Joe. Johnny Carson was calling him out as a duplicitous liar back in 1987.... you know back in the days when the MSM weren't the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party.
     
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    They DID investigate and it turned out to be FAKE NEWS.

    The WSJ's investigation established that there was ZERO credibility to the bovine excrement allegations.
     
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    You have your opinion and I have my evidence. Sorry.
     
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    Thank you for your comments. I agree with your thoughts. I don't mean to come across as "utopian," for, like you, I've been consistently disappointed by those we've elected to government overall. But I haven't given up hope yet. I still have faith in the ability to create positive, responsive, responsible government with the right choices. But I've never seen those right choices being made all at once, together--yet. I hadn't seen the quote from Washington before, but I like it. :)
     
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  10. Derideo_Te

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    :roflol:

    Your OPINION is based upon the FALSEHOODS of your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief's campaign and notorious LIAR Rudy Guiliani.

    So it is YOUR opinion versus the WSJ investigation findings?

    Not hard to figure out which has CREDIBILITY and which does NOT.

    :roflol:
     
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    No wonder at all. It is crap.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-23/joe-biden-hunter-laptop-allegations-us-election-2020/12801162
     
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    There is a computer. It is real. There are emails. They are real. There is the recipient of those emails confirming them. Sorry, that is evidence, real, false, true or whatever. It would be nice to see you give up the childish writing style.
     
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    I don't see you COMPLAINING about YOUR wannabe Fascist-in-Chief using the EXACT same writing style.

    Does the term hypocrisy ring any bells?

    NONE of what you allege is "evidence" has been INDEPENDENTLY verified as being authentic.

    The WSJ has already DEBUNKED the allegations in the emails.

    That is hard FACTUAL reality.
     
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    Exact same writing style. Cute.

    How do you prove a negative? By the way the WSJ article was an opinion written by a reporter before the confirmation arrived from the recipient of the emails. Your time line is obsolete. I would put your FACTUAL reality in the trash can. It is an opinion.
     
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    That business partner's bovine excrement has also been DEBUNKED so obviously your extremist rightwing sources are NOT keeping you properly informed.
     
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    You do understand that political hacks will "debunk" anything not in their interest don't you? Well, maybe not.
     
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    You do realize that Steve Bannon is UNDER investigation by the FBI and Rudy has ZERO credibility?

    Those are the political SHILLS that YOU are relying upon?

    Sad!
     
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    I didn't know that. I thought I was relying on the evidence.
     
  19. WalterSobchak

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    Even FOX News is now admitting this fake story is falling apart. LOL They verified last night that this business associate is lying through his teeth.

    But not to worry, I'm sure ole Rudy will drop some new fake story as soon as he stops playing with himself.
     
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    I have fox news playing in the background as I work. I have been hearing the opposite of what you say. But I do appreciate the effort.
     
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    No, you have entertainers on fox news talking about it. The real news refuses to speak about this fake story.
     
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    And so refusal is refutation?
     
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    Absolutely. Do you ever ask yourself why FOX News told Rudy no when he first brought this fake story to them?
     
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    No.
     
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    You should. Why people do what they do is more enlightening than what they actually do.
     
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