Give me a good reason why the rich should pay more taxes

More to the point, they haven't a clue how much of what the rich make is effectively GIVEN to them in the form of government-issued and enforced privileges, government favors, government contracts, government monopolies, etc.

 

Why would you even bother making such a stupid, fatuous, and dishonest statement? Does the bank you own get the benefit of issuing debt money with government backing? Do the patents and copyrights you own get their value from government enforcement? Does government spending on services and infrastructure go straight into your pocket in the form of increased land value? If so, then you are in fact one of "them."

Don't be so stupid and dishonest. They have more money BECAUSE they are getting more services from government, and more benefit from those services.

More stupid, fatuous, and dishonest garbage. A McDonald's burger is the same no matter who orders it, and no matter their situation in life. When government builds a road, the guy who owns one adjacent lot where his house sits might get $10K in land value, but the rich who own hundreds or thousands of acres along the road are pocketing millions. THAT'S WHY THEY GET SO MUCH RICHER SO QUICKLY WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING.

It is your stupid McDonald's burger example that is apples and oranges. If a guy gets one burger, he pays for one burger. You are claiming that because a MickyD's burger is always the same, the rich guy who is getting 1000 of them should pay no more than the poor guy who can only buy one.

What a stupid, fatuous, dishonest load of $#!+.

It's not how much you use. It's how much more benefit you get from what you take from society. And the rich are taking ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE than the rest of us.

 

Your evidence that people have chosen to give up their rights...?

Thought not.

<yawn> How many officers are assigned per mansion vs per hovel? How often are they there to arrest the mansion occupants vs the hovel occupants?

Oh. nvm

 

The rich own the banks that issue, ex nihilo, the money that the rest of us have to work for -- and pay the banksters interest on.

 

Why do you even bother telling such stupid lies?

Enough to compensate for the benefit inequality.

Maybe because they don't receive enough income to incur an income tax liability?

Geez louise....

 

Not when you are talking about rightful shares of the tax burden, it isn't.

Share matters because the rich's share of the taxes is way less than their share of the publicly created wealth

More stupid, dishonest garbage from you. All credible economists agree that income and especially wealth mobility in the USA has declined sharply, and is well below the average for advanced countries.

 

If you are referring to paying for the exclusive use of community-owned land, I would consider that rent, not taxes.

Aside for this rent, I see no reason why anyone should pay taxes to anyone else.

 

You're talking about a drastically different community if that's all anyone takes from it.

 

Were you talking about something other than the exclusive use of community-owned land?

For what other legitimate purpose should some people be allowed to forcibly take money from others? Don't people have a right to keep the fruits of their labor?

 

This is highly amusing.

So you are saying the more money I make, then the more services I use? Period?

If I win the lottery, or manage to climb the work ladder to earn six figure sums that does not mean I will use more services. In both cases here (lottery and job achievement) I am using no more services from the goverment than I was before I climbed the ladder. In fact, I may be using less services as I don't need to claim certain benefits any more.

The value of the land that I own in no way affects the service that is being provided [i.e. a road I and everyone else can use]. I may get richer without doing anything at all, but the service provided is the same.

That's exactly what I said, It's clear you can read as you quoted it, but I'm not sure you understand. I stated my McDonalds example was apples and oranges as an example [and even said it was a bad example]. Good to see you agree with me.

Yes... this may be a novel concept to you, but if a price is advertised without conditions then everyone should pay that price. If a rich guy buys one burger, then it should be same price as when a poor guys buys one burger. If a rich guy buys 1000 burgers, then it should be the same price as when a poor guy buys 1000 burgers. You think that the poor guy should pay more for 1000 burgers than the rich guy would? Good luck with that marketing plan.

Wrong attitude in my opinion. It should be exactly how much you use. If a rich guy required waste collection 3 times a day [for 7 days a week] from his home, whereas the poor guy gets the waste collection twice a week then more resources need to be spent on the rich guy (as he requires 19x more service). In this case, the rich guy should perhaps pay 19x more for his waste services. If it were the other way around, then I would say the poor guy should pay.


You seem to think that just because I may get more rich, that I need to pay more for the same sevices I have always used. Why is that acceptable in government, but not any other areas like restuarants, stores, gas, bus, train, plane, AAA, tolls? All these provide a set price SERVICE. I shouldn't need to pay more on a toll than you when we both have the same car, both travel the same distance, but just have different wage packets.

 

So if I win the super lottery, but stay the same humble man... can you give me an example of more services I use that are paid from tax dollars?

 

You must not have got the memo, the rich own the government. There are no poor people in congress, the senate, or the WH.

 

Just because the envious and untalented left does not define work as doing anything more than getting a wage does not mean work is as they define it.

 

They are not 'wasting it'. They are very effectively buying votes with it maintaining their power with it.

 

That is not true..Our tax codes gives the poor far more rights to his property than it does the rich.

 

That is simply class rhetoric, not fact.

 

If the rich thieves don't pay taxes their silly system won't work because they are hogging all the capital. That is surely obvious to anyone but a forelock-tugging mug?

 

Gibberish based on nothing more than class envy and hate

 

Government will use force to get what it believes is theirs....

There is no relationship between what is demanded by government and the 'services' it provides

 

Actually, from those without the votes to prevent it.

 

Why should he give his money to the mob, simply because they demand it?

 

Until you die and then they consider it an estate and raid it again...and except for all property taxes which tax the same wealth over and over again

 

Don't confuse them with math. it's not about funding government but instead its about punishing folk who dare be more successful than the fellow demanding the tax.

 

With your ideas you need to be living in north korea. they practice all of the things that you want for the USA. Your jealousy and envy of successful people has destroyed too many brain cells for you to participate in any meaningful discussion.

 

Grab the torches and pitchforks-------storm the Bastille-----off with their heads.

Was Karl Marx your third grade teacher? Is everyone in the UK as uninformed as you are?