God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land

Frank Grimes · Feb 19, 2014

DennisTate said: ↑

..... humnnnnn...... good question??????!!!!!!

uhm...... I hate to say it... .but.......... the Christian heaven....... might have even more serious problems than a possible lack of chicken wings?????!!!!

http://www.near-death.com/forum/nde/000/91.html

Reflexly I raised my arms in thanks and adoration for my Lord's love in showing me heaven's wonders which were mysteries to me. As I bowed my head, I noted a glowing pure-white gown which somehow I had not seen when I looked through it in search of organs! I was awed by its total weightlessness and silky softness. My raised arms had parted its overlapping folds for the moment, revealing me as a neuter (i.e. no sex organs)! This came as a shock, although I had not felt surprise at the absence of defects or scars. This alteration was so unexpected!
"Lord Jesus, why am I now a neuter? I was a man."
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I had to check my pants after that one, that's no heaven, that's block C at Shawshank

DennisTate · Feb 21, 2014

Frank Grimes said: ↑

I had to check my pants after that one, that's no heaven, that's block C at Shawshank
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I have to admit that this had me a little worried too!!!!????

This could help to explain why near death experiencer Mellen Benedict found the Christian heaven to be somewhat boring????!!!!

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a09

I saw the Christian heaven. We expect it to be a beautiful place, and you stand in front of the throne, worshipping forever. I tried it. It is boring! This is all we are going to do? It is childlike. I do not mean to offend anyone. Some heavens are very interesting, and some are very boring. I found the ancient ones to be more interesting, like the Native American ones, the Happy Hunting Grounds. The Egyptians have fantastic ones. It goes on and on. There are so many of them. In each of them there is a fractal that is your particular interpretation, unless you are part of the group soul that believes in only the God of a particular religion. Then you are very close, in the same ball park together. But even then, each is a little bit different. That is a part of yourself that you leave there. Death is about life, not about heaven.

I asked God, "What is the best religion on the planet? Which one is right?"

And Godhead said, with great love:

"I don't care."

That was incredible grace. What that meant was that we are the caring beings here.

The Ultimate Godhead of all the stars tells us:

"It does not matter what religion you are."

They come and they go, they change. Buddhism has not been here forever, Catholicism has not been here forever, and they are all about to become more enlightened. More light is coming into all systems now. There is going to be a reformation in spirituality that is going to be just as dramatic as the Protestant Reformation. There will be lots of people fighting about it, one religion against the next, believing that only they are right.
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DennisTate · Feb 21, 2014

Frank Grimes said: ↑

I had to check my pants after that one, that's no heaven, that's block C at Shawshank
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I wonder if I can keep dibs open on the Islamic heaven..... by spreading the message that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) had a valid OBE or NDE type of experience which inspired his book the Koran???!!

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=341905

I believe Abraham said "good son and good Prophet" to The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

If more Christian Mystics and even some Jewish Mystics will begin to discuss the theory that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was in many ways a Prophet Like Unto Moses as well as perhaps King David or Elijah or the Patriarch Abraham reincarnated........ then peace will soon break out in the Middle East!!!!!!!!!

3. The Prophet Muhammad's Journey to Heaven

According to the Islamic legend called "Miraj," the Prophet Muhammad had an experience that is similar in many respects to a near-death experience. Muhammad is said to have ascended to heaven to visit the seven heavens [and, in some accounts, the fires of hell] in the company of the archangel Gabriel. In the Koran, Muhammad's enemies are quoted as saying that they would not believe him unless he ascends to heaven and brings down a book (Sura 17:92-95).

In Islamic legend, Muhammad is reported to have gone on a mysterious night journey into heaven. Islamic sources state this happened "in the spirit," his body remaining behind. In this legend, Muhammad is prepared for his meeting with God by the archangels Jibril and Mikail one evening while he is asleep in the Ka'bah, the sacred shrine of Mecca. They open up his body and purify his heart by removing all traces of error, doubt, idolatry, and paganism and by filling it with wisdom and belief. An animal by the name of Buraq, apparently horse-like and white, and with a human face, was provided for a ride from the mosque in Mecca to the al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem, from where he ascended, supposedly on a ladder of light to the seven heavens. In the first heaven Muhammad meets Adam; in the second, John the Baptist and Jesus; in the third, Joseph; in the fourth, Enoch; in the fifth, Aaron; in the sixth, Moses; and in the seventh, Abraham (who welcomed him as "Good son and good prophet").
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http://www.near-death.com/muslim.html

DennisTate · Mar 7, 2014

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You know what happens when you throw turds at a wall? Some of it sticks.
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... and turds are at least useful as a form of fertilizer!!!!!!!??

http://saharaforestproject.com

Greening the desert
A short introduction to the Sahara Forest Project and its ambitious goal to bring the green to the desert
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The production of key resources, such as clean water, clean energy and a sustainable production of food represents some of our times greatest challenges. The Sahara Forest Project is a new environmental solution to create re-vegetation and green jobs through profitable production of food, water, clean electricity and biomass in desert areas.
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DennisTate · Mar 15, 2014

Margot2 said: ↑

Is there a synopsis for God's Plan?
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Margot2..... what do you think of my idea that I should start a campaign to get Mr. Tsvi Misinai award the Nobel Prize for Peace....... or Volunteer of the Year Award.... or something along that line?????!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai

DennisTate · Mar 19, 2014

I just ran into some comments on another forum that sure do fit with using a different way of approaching climate change.... to alter how we treat the environment that could help to promote peace in the Middle East!

Originally Posted by Jane_the_Bane:
"Treating the symptoms is nice, but it would make even MORE sense to put an end to the increasing deforestation of tropical forests. About 8 million square kilometers (3 mil. square miles) of the 16 million square kilometers (5.8 mio squ.mi.) that still existed in 1947 are now irretrievably lost, and the rate of destruction is still increasing.
By 2030, only ten percent of the ancestral forests will be left - and re-planting trees cannot make up for the loss.

This catastrophe has got much to do with overpopulation and povery, as subsistence farming in the world's poorer countries accounts for approximately 47% of the loss. Accordingly, it's not just an environmental problem with devastasting consequences on many different levels. It's also an economical, political and social problem.

Deserts contribute a lot to the regulation of our climate, by the way. It would be patently unwise to try to get rid of them instead of finding alternatives to our excessively wasteful lifestyle (which we foolishly export to as many nations as possible). At the current rate of resource consumption, we'd need more than two and a half planets to sustain us - and that's the status quo at a time when only a tiny portion of mankind (read: us, and other wealthy nations) is embracing this lifestyle. If everyone was living the way we do, driving SUVs down the block to the next supermarket, stocking up on (plastic-)bottled water, herbicide-plastered vegetables grown in gigantic monocultures and factory-farmed meat, this planet would be TOAST at this point."
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EXCELLENT comment!!!!!

Yes..... the number one priority must be to stop the deforestation that is occurring in the rain forest...... but we North Americans also have much improvement to make.....to get the beam out of our own eyes before attempting to take specks out of the eyes of other nations.

I worked at forestry for over twenty years here in Nova Scotia and our philosophy is HORRIBLE!!!

Hardwood trees have less economic value than softwood trees so the idea at this time seems to be to spray hardwood growths with goundup....... kill them off.... so that the softwood trees that are perhaps modified to be less vulnerable to roundup grow better.......... Several people who hunt rabbits tole me that the rabbits that they caught that were near some of these sites were full of tumors!!!!!

One of the reasons why such insanity dominates our forestry industry.....is because Richard Dawkins Ph. D. has people convinced that there is not intelligent design in nature........ so our egotistical scientists actually feel that they can improve various species of animal and plant.....and I assume they will soon use this on humans!!!!?????

The Book of Jasher is interesting! It seems to imply that genetic manipulation of species occurred even previous to the flood.
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And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals.
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http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/jasher/4.htm

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Originally Posted by mzungu:
This may be true for North America but in Sub Sahara Africa this could not be further from the truth. 98% of Sub Sahara people use firewood and or charcoal as a cooking fuel. Charcoal used is only made from hardwood.
I am in Tanzania and am trying to start a sustainable biomass charcoal company. Tanzania alone looses 2 x New York cities including the Burroughs every year. The devastation is causing a huge ecological impact. The people cannot afford other alternative types of fuel. We will replant various and mixed indigenous species and harvest in between on a rotational basis. This means that there will always be trees around the harvested trees for the fauna. Birds, insects, and other animals will have their natural habitat while the people will have a cost effective fuel to use for their cooking needs.

We will also buy refuses from the local farmers and help them replant the felled trees with indigenous species.

Monocultures are simply wrong! They are a disaster for the ecosystems!
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I totally agree and deeply appreciate this comment!

My province Nova Scotia is central to what is termed The Atlantic Gateway...… so what you just stated.... surely could be information that would help us to find a better use for hardwood trees than to kill them with roundup!!!!!!!!?????

upside-down cake · Mar 19, 2014

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I personally feel that a plan to turn the deserts of many Islamic nations green through desalination of ocean water on a large scale for irrigation of many crops (one of them certainly would be hemp for hemp oil and other products), would be a great way to get the Islamic nations involved in a project that will give them something in common with the western democracies.

Everybody in New Orleans, New Jersey, along Canada's Bay of Fundy, Holland and in every place in the world at low sea level should be very interested in this plan that is based on an ancient Islamic prophecy?!

"ISLAM IN SCIENCE/BIBLE/HISTORY:
Friday, 23 September 2005

Topic: 9: DESERTS GREEN/MANIFEST

Here is prophecy I personally thought some way to happen:

Book 005, Number 2208:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers.SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)

1.DESERTS GREEN? (Allah knows best)

If mankind is on earth during next ice age (signs from it already there, like Golf-stream slowing down 20% in last five years period, some scientist predict that Britain might have climate of Alaska in next 20 years), deserts of Arabs (Sahara+Middle-East) is going to be green, as they were during last ice age when black Africans inhabited even nowadays deserts of Libya. This has been mentioned in prophecy and hadith of prophet Mohammed (puh), as he said that "deserts of Arabs will once again be filled with rivers and gardens". Noticeably here is for example satellite pictures taken from Saudi-Arabian desert, In these pictures anyone can clearly see old river streams going under desert, and from there founded remains of gardens and agricultural activity. So Mohammed knew without proofs that during last ice age area was green, And so it will be during next ice age after change in climate and rainfalls. But this prophecy does not exclude possibility that humans themselves could make them green, as their actions would anyway be originated from Allah, and it could happen this way:"

http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/index.blog?topic_id=1021110

One of the first Islamic nations that should be offered the opportunity to go green should be Jordan!

A plan for peace between Israelis and Palestinians that does not include Jordan is likely to fail!
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Don't be fooled. Many nations have fallen under these huge, hyper-costly acts of nation building in which developers come in and promise awe-inspiring advances in their economic situation by undertaking exotic and expensive schemes like damns and such. The nations accept, take out massive loans for which they can't repay, pay foreign workers to do this job, realize that the benefits of these things were highly inflated and/or unsustainable, and are left with massive, compromising debts that leave their nation as open to outside authority and subversion as such unfortunate countries as Haiti and the Dominican Republic.

It's a subtle form of imperialism in the guise of capricious good will.

DennisTate · Mar 21, 2014

upside-down cake said: ↑

Don't be fooled. Many nations have fallen under these huge, hyper-costly acts of nation building in which developers come in and promise awe-inspiring advances in their economic situation by undertaking exotic and expensive schemes like damns and such. The nations accept, take out massive loans for which they can't repay, pay foreign workers to do this job, realize that the benefits of these things were highly inflated and/or unsustainable, and are left with massive, compromising debts that leave their nation as open to outside authority and subversion as such unfortunate countries as Haiti and the Dominican Republic.

It's a subtle form of imperialism in the guise of capricious good will.
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Good points!!!!

Would it be any different if the loans to finance these projects were..... at ZERO percent interest... much like the plan initiated by President Lincoln... that apparently President Kennedy intended to copy?

My guess would be that far less than five percent of Americans are aware that President Lincoln saved taxpayers in the range of FOUR BILLION dollars in interest payments!

http://www.michaeljournal.org/lincolnkennedy.htm

In 1972, the United States Treasury Department was asked to compute the amount of interest that would have been paid if that 400 million dollars would have been borrowed at interest instead of being issued by Abraham Lincoln. They did some computations, and a few weeks later, the United States Treasury Department said the United States Government saved 4 billion dollars in interest because Lincoln had created his own money. So you can about imagine how much the Government has paid and how much we owe solely on the basis of interest.
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DennisTate · Mar 21, 2014

upside-down cake said: ↑

Don't be fooled. Many nations have fallen under these huge, hyper-costly acts of nation building in which developers come in and promise awe-inspiring advances in their economic situation by undertaking exotic and expensive schemes like damns and such. The nations accept, take out massive loans for which they can't repay, pay foreign workers to do this job, realize that the benefits of these things were highly inflated and/or unsustainable, and are left with massive, compromising debts that leave their nation as open to outside authority and subversion as such unfortunate countries as Haiti and the Dominican Republic.

It's a subtle form of imperialism in the guise of capricious good will.
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Have you ever read "The End of Poverty" by Jeffrey Sachs?

The caliber of your comment implies that either you did.......or you ran into similar information from another good source!

I would love to get your reaction to this topic as well:

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...conservatives-worry-about-climate-change.html

HAB Theory and getting Conservatives to worry about climate change!

Dr. Albert Einstein took The HAB Theory very seriously:

http://www.habtheory.com/1/100.php

upside-down cake · Mar 25, 2014

DennisTate said: ↑

Have you ever read "The End of Poverty" by Jeffrey Sachs?

The caliber of your comment implies that either you did.......or you ran into similar information from another good source!

I would love to get your reaction to this topic as well:

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...conservatives-worry-about-climate-change.html

HAB Theory and getting Conservatives to worry about climate change!

Dr. Albert Einstein took The HAB Theory very seriously:

http://www.habtheory.com/1/100.php
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I wish I could remember the book...

It was a book written by a US Admiral. Rather lengthy, but it was the first time I was exposed to that concept, though it wasn't worded as such. It was merely expressed in the diplomatic and militaristic history of the US with Haiti and the Dominican Republic. However, as I began to read of the history behind the aggression with Cuba, then down to the Central American, the South American states, and then, linked by the Iran-Contra affair, to the Middle East and then to Africa, and the South Asian Islands and territories (including Hawaii before it's annexation) it's rather difficult to miss the consistency of fairly negative US policies towards these places (and interesting to see the, as time progresses) often benign titles and ideals that these policies take place under. Most of these things were explained by the US government and media as "supporting freedom fighters around the world". You won't come out of it with a smile...unless you agree with the whole, we are the "light of the world thing".

DennisTate · Mar 26, 2014

upside-down cake said: ↑

I wish I could remember the book...

It was a book written by a US Admiral. Rather lengthy, but it was the first time I was exposed to that concept, though it wasn't worded as such. It was merely expressed in the diplomatic and militaristic history of the US with Haiti and the Dominican Republic. However, as I began to read of the history behind the aggression with Cuba, then down to the Central American, the South American states, and then, linked by the Iran-Contra affair, to the Middle East and then to Africa, and the South Asian Islands and territories (including Hawaii before it's annexation) it's rather difficult to miss the consistency of fairly negative US policies towards these places (and interesting to see the, as time progresses) often benign titles and ideals that these policies take place under. Most of these things were explained by the US government and media as "supporting freedom fighters around the world". You won't come out of it with a smile...unless you agree with the whole, we are the "light of the world thing".
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There is a saying that even our most altruistic actions...… can have a partly selfish/prideful/ lustful motivation....... but also our worst mistakes.... our most selfish and foolish acts....... or behavior patterns..... can become like a Bill Wilson Effect.... and propel us onward to great accomplishments.

The idea that America is superior to all other nations.......... that was largely put forward by Hollywood especially from the '30's to '60's..... is certainly something of a myth.

My wife and I watched the Burzynski film several months ago. We were both shocked.... and kind of depressed too! Assuming that the flavor and the facts presented in the film are basically correct....... then this means that an astonishing number of well educated Americans have been collaborators....... in a deliberate holocaust..... on victims of cancer!!!!!!???

It seems that political leaders in America and Canada are determined to perpetuate the myth that radiation and chemotherapy equipment is NOT obsolete...… but I get the impression from what I have read over the past few years that we will soon know that far far far better treatments for cancer were well known by influential people in our society and government..... but they collaborated to suppress information that could have saved thousands if not millions of lives and prevented untold suffering!!!!????

What we have done economically through the banking system is similar to how we have made money even off diseases like cancer and HIV!!!???

http://www.burzynskimovie.com/

.... on the positive side....... horrible monetary policy that increases unemployment....... can often be rather good for the environment in many ways?????!!!!

DennisTate · Mar 29, 2014

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The Saudis have hired a bunch of AG experts to teach agricultural techniques.. They grow the most beautiful herbs and have huge fish farms, shrimp farms and dairy farms.
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If and when money becomes abundant... as an ancient Islamic prophecy implies that could happen anytime soon....... unemployment certainly could be decreased and similar projects to what the Saudis are doing could be done in what are now third world nations.

Book 005, Number 2208:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers.SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)
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DennisTate · Apr 20, 2014

This device sure looks like it could alter the formula.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...60479556.48404.261982733906722&type=1&theater

A giant basket that uses condensation to gather drinking water posed as solution to Ethiopian water shortage.

The water towers stand nearly 30 feet tall and can collect over 25 gallons of potable water per day by harvesting atmospheric water vapor. Designer Arturo Vittori was inspired by the Warka tree, a giant, gravity-defying domed tree native to Ethiopia that sprouts figs and is used as a community gathering space. “To make people independent, especially in such a rural context it’s synonymous of a sustainable project and guaranties the longevity,” says Vittori. “Using
natural fibers helps the tower to be integrated with the landscape both visually with the natural context as well as with local traditional techniques.”
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DennisTate · Apr 20, 2014

I just read an article about how the hemp plant absorbs radiation!

This could sure help with the clean up after Fukushima!
http://www.hempforfuture.com/2014/0...mp-fields-should-be-planted-around-fukushima/

DennisTate · May 10, 2014

I agree with David!

David Mortensen

I have been a supporter of "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" for several years. I believe it is our best hope for bringing lasting peace and justice to the Middle East and for bringing the Children of Abraham together in a joyful family reunion. I urge everyone to read the Plan, discuss it with your families and friends and share it with others. I thank my good friend Bob Mendelson for all his work in preparing the Peace Plan. Peace, Dave Mortensen
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DennisTate · May 10, 2014

This certainly looks like an intriguing film...must watch this later on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irxdku5NNE8

Greening African Deserts 030909

DennisTate · May 12, 2014

In my opinion…. "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land" fits extremely well with The Engagement Movement.

"As a result of remaining in the Land of Israel, the ancestors of the Palestinians partially converted to Christianity during the Byzantine era. Later, with the coming of Islam, they were Islamized through a combination of mainly forced conversions, but also nominal conversions (that is, conversions for forms sake to derive benefits as Muslims, and avoid tributes owed by non-Muslims, in Muslim ruled lands) and others yet out of genuine theological conviction.[5]

Conversion to Islam occurred progressively throughout the successive periods of foreign elite minority rule over Palestine, both on an individual basis and en masse, starting with the conversions during the various dynasties of Arabian Muslim rulers from the initial Muslim conquest of Palestine. Following these came rule by Muslim non-Arab dynasties such as the Ayyubids (Kurdish Muslim), Mameluks (Turkic Muslim) and finally the Ottomans (Turkish Muslim).[6] This continuous phase of elite minority foreign Islamic rule over a local indigenous (now largely Muslim) mass was only briefly interrupted by the elite minority foreign Christian rule by the European Crusaders, which lasted from 1096 until their expulsion by the Mameluks in 1291.[9]"
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai

DennisTate · Jun 11, 2014

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Is there a synopsis for God's Plan?
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Margot.... what do you think of this theory that the restoration of the LGBT community will precede the coming of real peace to the Middle East?

Frankly.......... I think that the author is onto an extremely important idea that ties in with my feeling that New Age Communities need to be printing up local currencies.... and linking them to film projects... that address problems that people are facing.......

http://www.brianbowenministries.com/22-jesus-jews-and-gays.html

The Bed Keeper:
A Biblical Case for Gay Marriage

Chapter 22:
Jesus, Jews and Gays

As we explored in Chapter 21: GAZA: Holy Land for Gays of The Bed Keeper, it seems very possible that as gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people are gathered into God's House of Prayer of ALL people, we will be in a position to share the message of the Gospel with LGBT people of other faiths and nations, and perhaps even bringing peace to the Middle East in the process. This will be a somewhat challenging chapter of The Bed Keeper, but let's take a look at a few passages of Scripture, and see how they connect to each other to form what I believe is yet another powerful revelation pertaining to LGBT believers which seems to transpire after we have converted to Christianity, and after we have brought a message of correction to the Church, and after we become part of God's House of Prayer, and even after we begin to fulfill prophecy by bringing our offerings to God's altar.
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tecoyah · Jun 11, 2014

Thread: God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land

If this "God" thingy (whichever one you pick), has a plan for any place in the Middle East.....he sucks at planning an should be fired.

DennisTate · Jun 13, 2014

tecoyah said: ↑

Thread: God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land

If this "God" thingy (whichever one you pick), has a plan for any place in the Middle East.....he sucks at planning an should be fired.
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Or............. perhaps a pair of beings composed of fundamental energy...… who may have taken eternity to plan and work out a nearly infinite series of Big Bang events over essentially infinite time........ might just be seriously inclined toward giving us hints on how to solve problems...… but make it necessary for us to do at least something right ourselves........as opposed to stepping in and cleaning everything up for us easily???!!!

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html#a05

As I passed into the second light, the awareness came to me that I had just transcended the truth. Those are the best words I have for it, but I will try to explain. As I passed into the second light, I expanded beyond the first light. I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond infinity. I was in the void. I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the beginning of time - the first word - the first vibration. I was in the eye of creation. I felt as if I was touching the face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply I was at one with absolute life and consciousness.

When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That's a mind-expanding thought, isn't it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang as a single event which created the universe. I saw that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by supercomputers using fractal geometry equations.(Mellen Benedict)
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Remember how our parents and grandparents used to tell us how tough things were when they grew up?

Can you imagine what it might be like to "grow up" in fundamental or nearly fundamental energy?

DennisTate · Jul 5, 2014

Margot2 said: ↑

Is there a synopsis for God's Plan?
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The opening paragraph of the document is something of a synopsis as well

Gods Peace for the Holy Land*? Isnt that a presumptuous title? Please allow
me to explain. First, since the sacred books of Judaism, Christianity and Islam
provide the guidelines supporting this solution, and since I wasnt the one who
wrote them, calling them Gods seems fair. Thats why the words presented by
precede my name on the title page. Second, this book in no way proselytizes or
puts one religion above another. Nor does it openly or subtly encourage anyone to
convert to anything. What it does is take into account something without which
attaining peace in the Holy Land (Israel/Palestine) will forever be unattainable.
That something is the sacred messages delivered to each of the peoples involved
in the dispute. In this case, referencing the sacred books is more than some dry,
scholarly exercise or even a gesture of courtesy. Without taking the sacred books
into account, peace in the Holy Land will be near, if not completely, impossible." (Robert Mendelson)
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http://www.godspeaceplan.org/user/image/gods-peace-plan-for-the-holy-land.pdf

http://www.godspeaceplan.org

DennisTate · Jul 5, 2014

tecoyah said: ↑

Thread: God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land

If this "God" thingy (whichever one you pick), has a plan for any place in the Middle East.....he sucks at planning an should be fired.
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I got angry with Messiah Jesus/ Yeshua back in 1990 over his "many called/few chosen" statements……. At that time I was going through a serious theological/ philosophical crisis after reading some of those negative NDE accounts.

Posts #1 and post #4 on this page elaborate on how I went through a phase of asking similar questions myself?!?!

http://tate4centralnova.yuku.com/topic/383/My-correspondence-with-Rabbi?page=1#.U7hNqxaHfLQ

Rabbi ........, linking Jerusalem Third Temple with Grand Unified Theory of Modern World Problems.

DennisTate · Jul 15, 2014

Margot2 said: ↑

Is there a synopsis for God's Plan?
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Here is a larger summary that I would love to get your opinion on Margot2?

CHAPTER 1

GODS PEACE PLAN FOR THE HOLY LAND

Summary of Key Points of the Plan

1. Create a new nation, "Israel" composed of Israel, West Bank, & Gaza,
with two Sub-States/tribal areas called Judah and Ephraim,
respectively. Each tribal area will have its own civil government.
"Judah" consists of what we call "Israel" today, "Ephraim" consists of
the West Bank and Gaza. Boundaries are the same as pre-1967 War.

2. Jerusalem will be the undivided national capital. Jerusalems security will be
handled by an international peace force mutually agreed upon by both parties.
The international peace force will remain until Israels new Congress
unanimously agrees on returning these duties to Israels control.

3. Hebrons security issues will be handled the same as with Jerusalem.

4. All Palestinians and all Israelis, Jew, Arab, or otherwise, will be recognized as
citizens of the new, re-united, state of Israel.

5. Right of Return. All Palestinians may return to live in the land and be citizens.
Palestinians whove had land confiscated in the West Bank or Gaza will have
their land returned. Palestinians whove had land confiscated in Judahs portion
will receive financial compensation.

6. Israeli settlers in settlements in the West Bank and/or Gaza are
to receive new homes within "Judahs" territory.

7. All citizens from either group who havent killed civilians of the other tribe
may purchase land in either tribal area, i.e., anywhere in the entire country.

8. Freedom of religion in both tribal areas.

9. A national army made up of both tribes.

10. One national government, with a democratically-elected "Congress"
made up of twenty-four "elders" and a President.(Robert Mendelson)
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I got permission to publish this booklet as a blog so that more people would read it.

Over twenty pages are up so far.... my internet connection is not letting me download the entire document yet though.
http://www.godspeaceplanfortheholyland.blogspot.ca/

DennisTate · Jul 15, 2014

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I'm into Chapter 1 and enjoying it. I don't know how practical it is. I don't know how accurate the author's interpretations are. But it is good reading.
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I just got permission from the author Robert Mendelson to post this as a blog so that it would be available to people who don't like PDF format.

http://godspeaceplan.blogspot.ca/2014/07/gods-peace-plan-for-holy-land-peace.html

God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land

YouLie · Jul 15, 2014

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I just got permission from the author Robert Mendelson to post this as a blog so that it would be available to people who don't like PDF format.

http://godspeaceplan.blogspot.ca/2014/07/gods-peace-plan-for-holy-land-peace.html

God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land
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If I recall, the author encourages people to copy it, redistribute it, etc. Smart.

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