GOP senators’ new bill would let ISPs sell your Web browsing data

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  1. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is everybody good with this? If you are okay with what they are attempting to do, please explain why this is inconsequential or a good thing for you personally.
     
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    Just make it easier for women's right's groups to track down users of porn sites and married men who use dating sites - lawyers will be able to use
    such evidence in divorce proceedings. I'm all for it. ;) Thank you Republican lawmakers.
     
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    Should banks, mortgage companies, doctors, tax accountant companies, pharmacies, etc. be allowed to sell information about you?

    I'm just curious if you have ANY limits on sales of your personal information.
     
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    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    It's a Pandora's Box of trouble (litigation) that they're likely opening.

    We'll see, in due time.
     
  5. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think that poster was being a bit tongue in cheek.
     
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    Thank God!
     
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    I thought they were doing it already.
    I can search for something on eBay, and ads will appear on other windows I have open.
     
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    I don't think companies should be allowed to sell any personal information without your express permission at the point of sale.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lolz every day at lefty claims of moral superiority.

    Hows the weather in gaza, children?
     
  10. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    That and 'sarcasm' must be clarified on the internet. (Doesn't always work as intended.)
     
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    That's horrible, not only is it an invasion of privacy, but now identity thieves can go directly to the ISP instead of buying information from websites. Free service websites like Facebook and Google, that depend on selling your info for dollars, are going away. After all, why pay for information from a middleman when you can go right to the source???
     
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    I think that's more likely to be either eBay or the search engine you chose to use rather than your ISP.
     
  13. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it was finalized today because we aren't entitled to privacy especially when they are going nuts over wiretapping. ****ing corrupt Republican morons.
     
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    Nothing's changed. Tomorrow will be the same as today. No new Democrat driven bureaucracy will be created to spend taxpayer money while making the cost of an internet connection as expensive as they made healthcare.

    If you want your privacy, stay off the grid. Don't make it more expensive for normal people.
     
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    You really don't realize what you're saying.

    And that is why it is good for people with diverse mindsets to be involved in this country's political system.

    If they (the GOP) wasn't CHANGING something... they wouldn't have done what they did. And considering the voting record of the GOP, it isn't likely they actually were looking out for the little guy.
     
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    Perhaps you should do a little research. The new FCC chair wants nothing to do with the rules that he was going to have to enforce --- rules designed to favor large businesses by putting small ISPs out of business. The new rule, 74 pages were released as a bomb from the Obama Administration in December 2016 to attack his successor. The current FCC chair, was against the FCC declaring that the internet was like a telephone so they could take it over in February 2015. He was in the minority and the fascists had the majority and were in charge. Until the fascists took over the internet, privacy was the responsibility of the FTC and the problems the FCC created by leaving a vacuum didn't exist.

    The good new is that at least you admit to be narrow minded. See if you can bring yourself to read what the FCC chairman had to say about the vote. His name is Ajit Pao. I think I posted his comments earlier in this thread, but you can google his name.

    Here, I posted it elsewhere:
    STATEMENT OF FCC CHAIRMAN AJIT PAI
    ON CONGRESSIONAL RESOLUTION OF DISAPPROVAL OF FCC BROADBAND PRIVACY REGULATIONS


    WASHINGTON, March 28, 2017. — Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai issued the following statement regarding today’s passage of a congressional resolution of disapproval of the FCC’s broadband privacy regulations:

    “Last year, the Federal Communications Commission pushed through, on a party-line vote, privacy regulations designed to benefit one group of favored companies over another group of disfavored companies. Appropriately, Congress has passed a resolution to reject this approach of picking winners and losers before it takes effect.

    “It is worth remembering that the FCC’s own overreach created the problem we are facing today. Until 2015, the Federal Trade Commission was protecting consumers very effectively, policing every online company’s privacy practices consistently and initiating numerous enforcement actions. However, two years ago, the FCC stripped the FTC of its authority over Internet service providers. At the time, I strongly opposed usurping the FTC, and the FCC’s struggles to address the privacy issue over the past couple of years (along with its refusal to recognize consumers’ uniform expectation of privacy) has only strengthened that view.

    “Moving forward, I want the American people to know that the FCC will work with the FTC to ensure that consumers’ online privacy is protected though a consistent and comprehensive framework. In my view, the best way to achieve that result would be to return jurisdiction over broadband providers’ privacy practices to the FTC, with its decades of experience and expertise in this area.”
     
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    I'm looking at outcomes, not promises or interpretation of the data you provided.

    Specifically... what are people's rights ACTUALLY going to be in the end.... where it pertains to their PRIVACY (as related to the data which exists).

    I have solid reasons (certainly at this point) for not trusting a damned thing coming out of the current administration (and the GOP in general).

    We'll see what actually transpires.
     
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    Even if the rule were left in place, the issuing agency has no interest in enforcing it. In fact, the issuing agency, the FCC, doesn't believe the Internet should have been reclassified in 2015. The FCC believes that the proper place for internet regulation is the FTC where it has always been. The FTC already had a privacy regime in place. It makes no sense for one company, an ISP, to have to answer to two federal agencies on the same issue.

    I'm happy that you didn't lose the health plan or doctor you like, that the Obama NSA spied on your neighbors but not you, that you don't work in an industry shut down by the last administration and that your income wasn't degraded by the unconstitutional failure to enforce immigration laws on the books. You might otherwise have reason to mistrust the Democrats like many of us.
     
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    We'll see.
     
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    And we have a winner! VietVet is correct they do it already, they're not to concerned with the name as they are with you just seeing their adds! Even if they did give, force or whatever to the ISP to submit it would simply make proxy servers companies more popular.
     
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