Government Leaders Clash Over Next Step for Trump’s Ban on Chinese Stocks

The ban will also affect affiliates and subsidiaries.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/govern...inese-stocks-11608258526?mod=latest_headlines

America first is the best option for US.

Trump's action hits China's military and spy apparatus right where it counts the most, the bank account.

It was recently leaked that 2 million Chinese Communists are working in the west ( https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/data-leak-chinese-communist-party/ ). China is aggressive. What is their objective, world dominance? Will the US eventually fall due to our unwillingness to protect our own interests?

Biden and his corrupt, drug addicted son have been trying to profit from Chinese investment for a long time. Trump has done this to protect us by cutting off some of the money supply, but what will happen now? Will Biden open the market back up for China to profit?

Is this why China interfered in our election?

 

This seems like one of the few Trump actions I can agree with. Genuinely, I hope conservatives keep up with this. If Biden does reverse this, I want to know. Unfortunately, many conservatives, especially Trumpers, have generated a lot of noise over fantasies about fraud and stolen elections. We need folks to help us focus on real issues, like that in the OP.

 

Trump is far from perfect, but most of the actions he has taken were with the interests of Americans above all other nations. Biden is a multi-nationalist, AKA globalist who will work to increase the profit margin for Wall St, whether it helps our adversaries or not.

 

The problem is that Trump, and many of his supporters, have been spouting falsehoods* since before he started campaigning. Maybe I'd believe the statements in your post if this was my first day out of a cave since 2012, but I have 15k and counting Trump(er) falsehoods in the rearview mirror that make me skeptical. That said, I actually do want to see some investigations into Biden's possible ties to China, including his son's. I just wish the dems had the integrity to do those investigations themselves. Unfortunately, the pettiness of both parties will make any republican investigation just look like payback rather than an honest inquiry.

*I'd say "lies" but I can't tell what Trump and his supporters believe and what they're knowingly being dishonest about. It sure looks a lot like mostly lies, though.

 

NYSE is refusing to delist the Chinese Companies.

 

Sure, but 'regardless of the fantasies' securing the integrity of our elections is a real and important issue. Maybe Trump didn't win, but he would have less weight behind him, if the left would agree to investigate the issues that did occur. By opposing him in every way possible and ignoring issues that did occur, they push people with realistic concerns behind Trump instead of unifying us.

 

Where are people saying that issues shouldn't be investigated? That's an honest question, so please bring links to at least Fox News if you plan to answer. What I see are people asking for evidence, not merely allegations, and the folks making the allegations don't provide anything substantial. When Trump's own lawyers are showing up in court and admitting they don't have anything other than allegations, that their cases aren't even actually about fraud, and there are numerous Republicans who seem to agree with Democrats that there isn't any significant evidence, I can't fault anyone for dismissing claims that seem to be backed by air.

 

It would be nice to see Trump's stock portfolio. And why is he allowed to have a Chinese bank account while he doesn't want Americans to invest in China?

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_(law)

Testimony is evidence, not allegation. It's not as good as physical evidence but it is deceptive to discard it as an allegation. Trump is the one making the allegation. There is also statistical evidence. There are also procedural issues with how voting was conducted, while that does not amount to fraud, it still needs review.
Your own post is an example of discounting concerns in regards to preserving the integrity of our elections. You discount it without first bothering to fully examine or understand those concerns.

 

Okay, failure to point out anyone saying that there shouldn't be investigations noted.

We can play definition police if you want, but testimony not backed by some further evidence is practically worthless, especially when the allegations are so extraordinary. That's even more so the case when there have been numerous attempts by Trump's team to put forth bad testimony, they've admitted that their calls for witnesses have turned up a lot of false claims, and they themselves have admitted in court that they don't actually have significant evidence to support their cases. I'm not discounting the concerns. We've been told by Trump since before even the 2016 election that the process is rigged, so I can't really blame Trumpers for seeing the election fraud boogeyman everywhere. Let's all lobby Congress to start an investigation. But right now, I'm dismissing the claims made by Trump's team that have been repeatedly tossed out of court, and the claims by Trumpers on this board who have created dozens upon dozens of threads based on conspiratorial nonsense and ignorance. The boy has cried wolf more than 50 times at this point. I need to see some fur and teeth, and maybe a dead sheep, before I take any more of this seriously.

 

We are focussing on real issues... like fraudulent elections

 

It's more than just national security issues when it comes to Chines company stocks, these companies are heavily in debt and use two different sets of books for accounting. There's no way to know what is really going on in these co's financially. The Chinese stocks are placing American investors at risk.

 

Allegations supported by air and imagination. I wouldn't call those "real issues."

 

There's plenty of evidence... you just choose to ignore it

 

Yes, yes, we've all heard that there's "plenty of evidence." Just no one has thought to present it to the courts. They're waiting to be thrown out of court for that magical 60th time, surely then they'll show everyone this abundance of evidence.

 

Courts are corrupt... we're talking about America here... Biden is the most corrupt politician in the world...

 

I know, they're all out to get you folks. Those damned corrupt courts and judges, many of which Trump himself appointed. Too bad he didn't realize he was nominating deep state illuminati members. So terrible!

 

'and he completely ignores the over 400 000 switched votes.... like I said, you choose to ignore the evidence

 

The 400k that were switched to give Trump Florida?

 

Pennsylvania... it's in the video... stop ignoring evidence, stop watching CNN and you will finally know what is going on

 

I don't watch CNN. You should go watch the video of the 400k votes that got flipped from Biden to Trump in Florida. Talk about ignoring evidence!

 

I'm not interested in playing "ignore the evidence" tennis with you. You don't want to know... I get it, I want to know, I see it, Biden's election fraud is a coup de tat.

 

Right back at you, ignoring the evidence of Biden's lead in Florida disappearing all of a sudden. I know, it would have made Trump an even bigger loser this election, so you don't want to acknolwedge it. Whatever you have to do to get through the day.

 

So an investigation is necessary, we both agree

 

I do, in fact, think there should be an investigation. Whether it's necessary or not is debatable, but I'd be fine with it. The difference is, I'm prepared to accept the outcome. It's easy to imagine many, many Trumpers continuing to cry foul if an investigation doesn't turn anything up.