Government often has 10 agencies doing one job

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  1. longknife

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    Gregory Korte, USA TODAY April 8, 2014

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    Does this surprise any of you? Another GAO report that will do nothing but gather dust after the initial BS rant about “doing something”. Nothing will EVER get done to fix this. Especially with Democrats in charge!

    Read the full story @ www.usatoday.com/story/news/politic...-spent-on-duplicate-federal-programs/7435221/
     
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    Stories like this make my head explode. They point out duplication of federal programs and spending and then they interview some politician who tries to justify it. It's a seat of my pants number, but I bet 65-70% of federal spending can be cut. Some by eliminating duplication and some by cutting programs that can and should be ran by individual states. The 10th Amendment is completely ignored and the states need to stand up while they can.
     
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    65-75%? I wouldn't vote GOP then. Federal spending has always been at its highest growth rates under the GOP. They give farm subsidies, UI, and other socialist benefits to the rich. At least democrats give some of that stimulis to the 99%
     
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    I would cut it all out, but at least the rich use it to generate jobs in most cases. How many jobs do the poor create with their handouts?

    If all welfare and personal payments from the government were only from the state or local government, we would have 50 different programs to compare. The states that do it right will benefit and the states that do it wrong will learn. This putting all of our eggs in one federal basket leads to corruption in the program and misinterpretation of which programs are actually benefitting America. The federal government should only be allowed to spend money on functions specifically named in the Constitution. Protecting our borders, international dealings, and settling interstate disputes and supporting common infrastructure like interstate highways, railroads, air traffic, etc... They have no business dealing directly with individual citizens. I know Social Security and the personal income tax shot that to Hell 100 years ago, but that is how I feel it should be and I will vote toward moving in that direction when I can. (smaller federal government and more power to the individual states and local governments as necessary)
     
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    But your own article says exactly the opposite. The president has taken up 83% of the recommendations from the GAO and Congress 52%. So in spite of your claim people are paying attention
     
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    I don't know what your talking about. All the jobs lost into the recession were regained. Mostly through lower class stimuli and small business benefits. Do you understand Inflation and Deflation? If so, then you would know a deflated a dollar calls for an inflated lower class. We have a deflated dollar, therefore, we are seeking to put money back into the lower class. What you view as handouts, is actually just reducing the inflation deficit started by the recession.

    Minimum wage? Your against it I presume? Well, were you aware that when it started as 7$, it met inflation rates. Inflation fell, which means the poor need more money. Therefore, we are 3.50$ behind inflation rates. Its basic economic science. Consumption increases in times of economic deflation, which means that inner growth rises at a substantial level. That money is not stolen from the rich. It is recirculated back into the rich, when inflation is high.

    Let me once again simplify it. In times of deflation, we circulate money to the poor, and the economy grows/inflates. In times of inflation, we circulate money to the rich, and the economy grows/deflates. Its so simple, that it astounds me people still don't realize it. Consumption boom is advocated by Romney and the late Reagan. The republicans want to deflate the lower class, and inflate the dollar. This negative correlation lowers the GDP.

    The democrats seek to inflate the dollar, and inflate the lower class. Given current circumstances, this positive correlation increases the GDP. Does that make since?
     
  7. Texan

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    Unemployment numbers are artificially low because people are giving up on looking for work. The welfare and foodstamp rolls are expanding like crazy. Is that what you call "inflating the lower class"? It sounds like it promotes "low class".

    Some government jobs are necessary, but government jobs are a drag on our economy because they come from taxing all of the other non-government jobs and should be kept to a minimum. A private sector job supports itself without the taxpayer and provides tax revenues. Politicians have figured this out and they use us as "cash cows". They manipulate the tax rates and deductions for maximum revenue and behavior control. This is why the federal government needs as little power as possible on the lives of the individual citizen.

    I really don't care what minimum wage is. I started working in the 80s for $3.35/hr. I worked hard and didn't stay there long. I have never drawn welfare and my wife hasn't needed to work outside the home in the last 20 years. Welfare as it is and welfare abuse encourages laziness and is a drag on everybody else. If states ran welfare, there would be problems in some states and they would fix it when other states keep people happier and businesses and tax dollars head to those states. Which states are getting all of the jobs the last few years? High tax and spend or low tax and spend?
     
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    Come to Italy on holiday:fishing:, in a week here, just looking around, you could realize what "wasting tax payers money" means !
     
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    Are they really? Obama has actually created more jobs then we lost in the recession. Welfare, minimum wage increases, UI, and stimuli reforms have been substantial in increasing consumption. As consumption increases, so do more minimum and middle class jobs. Does that make since? When the economy is deflated, jobs actually increase when you make sure the poor are spending more. The shock effects we saw in his first term were pretty bad, but they are creating jobs, and we have a high growth rate of 3%. 1% above the international average.

    I don't think you would know these numbers, as people know either the conservative or liberal media in America. That's why I watch BBC. I just tell it the way it is ;)
     
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    So you're saying that raising my taxes to feed people too lazy to work is helping the economy. Good luck with that. That's not stimulus. That's theft.

    Just look at the G6 unemployment numbers and the percentage of adults working in America stats. I'd look it up, but I have to work.
     

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