FULL TITLE: Lindsey Graham defies GOP Pushback, Says US Should Go 'All in' on Ukraine https://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham-defies-gop-pushback-says-us-should-go-all-ukraine-1768904 Any American that sides with Russia is complicit, imo. Notwithstanding our internal battles, I can't accept that any person can be okay with these war crimes against Ukrainian citizens. We can't call ourselves "civilized" if we turn a blind eye and I'm pleased to know that Graham knows it's the right thing to do.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v..._right_now_according_to_most_republicans.html McConnell is also on board. It appears that he wants to cooperate with Democrats a bit more. I'm sure old school politicians like him don't quite get the more gregarious, disrespectful tone from some of the younger members. I'm glad he and Graham are making the right decision for Ukraine and democracy.
Seems like many who've posted in this thread don't have a clue of what democracy means. For example, there certainly isn't a democracy in Ukraine. Maybe many have misunderstood democracy for Putin-hating?
Graham and McConnell are ****ing shapeshifters because they say they're conservative when they're actually the opposite of conservative, er, they're authoritarian...As is, for example, the leader of Ukraine an authoritarian...Zelenskyy is the next Hitler.
Graham is a whiny loser who cannot tell right from wrong. Ditto McConnell. They demonstrate daily how few differences there are between R and D politicians.
No doubt we should be supporting the Ukrainians in their battle aginst the unwarranted attack by Russia. But, in this case, McConnell and Graham are just supporting the very people that donate heavily to the GOP. They are doing right for the wrong reasons.
What's sad is that when Biden let Afghanistan fall so quickly to the Taliban, it gave Putin the green light to invade Ukraine, thinking that he could swiftly take over that country as the Taliban took over Afghanistan and that Biden would just let it happen. So, that's how we got where we are in that mess plus it has raised inflation around the entire world. Now, due to that, we are forced to add more billions onto our debt helping Ukraine, which also increases inflation even more. We didn't have to be on this time line.
So then what caused the initial taking of Crimea in 2014? Did Russia have a time-traveller let them know about the Afghanistan pull-out 7 years early? Also, the US military was the only thing keeping the Taliban from taking Afghanistan, so not sure how Biden let it fall to the Taliban by not being there. A more accurate statement would be that the Afghan govt quickly fell to to the Taliban Without the US, in much the same manner that Ukraine would have fallen to Russian if not for the US and Biden.
LOL. And yet, we kind of invaded Afghanistan, spending billions of dollars to turn it into a democracy, then abruptly got out so we didn't have to spend billions of dollars more in keeping it a democracy and now we have turned right around and are now spending billions and billions to save the democracy of another country. Why is it we care about Ukraine but we didn't care about the democracy that we ourselves set up in Afghanistan? The billions we saved in getting out of Afghanistan aren't saved after all. If we had just spent the billions in Afghanistan, Ukraine wouldn't be happening.
Interesting how your post doesn't acknowledge or answer anything I responded in mine with. I'm aware of what happened there. Also, most don't really care about Ukraine in this, beyond the invasion of it by another sovereign state who promised never to do so if they gave up their nukes. This is more anti-Russia then pro-Ukraine then anything.
Name a war that Lindsey Graham wasn't all for. Like the warmonger John McCain, there are no wars that he has ever been against the US engaging in. He's always for US involvement in war. You act as if you came up with something unusual, were you really previously ignorant of this fact? If so, you're welcome!
"All in." I'm sure we'll get there, but I hope to forestall it as long as possible. But I wonder what the purpose of this thread is. Is it to say, hey, the GOP wants to keep the war going as long as possible too? It's bipartisan? McConnell's quote, ""Providing assistance for Ukrainians to defeat the Russians is the number one priority for the United States right now, according to most Republicans" has been going round Republican circles and there is not a lot of agreement about that. Defeating the Russians in a long term proxy war may be the the number one priority of Republican Senators and Lobbyists, but not the Republican electorate. It's really a crazy disconnect between GOP lawmakers and their voters.
Ukraine under the USSR all spoke Russian and everyone lived there amicably. But in 1991 the nationalists seized power and since then they have been breaking everything that connected them with Russia. Do you say there is democracy in Ukraine? You just haven't seen how Ukrainian thugs beat with stones and sticks those people who just wanted to remain Russian. And this has been happening for a long time - since 2004, demonstrators were already actively walking around with posters "Moskal - to the gallows" (Moskal - Russian in Ukrainian). So Russia is simply restoring the status quo.
The U.S. cannot save the entire world from terrorist leadership that attack countries. We are not the world police.
