Graham on why Dem Party 'turned its back on God'

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    With the 2020 election just around the corner, Rev. Franklin Graham asked and answered his own question Tuesday regarding the anti-Christian policies being pushed by every Democratic presidential candidate.

    “Why has the Democratic Party turned its back on God?” Graham opened his Facebook post Tuesday before offering his conclusion at the end. “The root of the issue is that many politicians don’t want God in any part of their politics or our country’s business because His standards condemn their sins.”

    Sin sells …

    Bottom line – people hate feeling guilty for their sins – and they want to still consider themselves as “good” people when doing the opposite of what God calls for.... https://onenewsnow.com/church/2019/05/15/graham-on-why-dem-party-turned-its-back-on-god The article covers where the democrat party has moved away from God. It discusses how they actively exclude Him in swearing in of witnesses, their conventions, in congress and the words of their leaders. It’s a sad documentary on the condition of that party.
     
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    Great, lets make all religion against the law.....! Then maybe this scum could be right and not have to lie .......Till then just another religious lair!....He to shall burn!
     
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    And the say the right is hateful. LOL
     
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    I remember days of years gone by the GOP was appalled by a BJ in the oval office....Now paying off porn stars while being married is OK!.....So yes, dont hate the player, hate the game....

    GOP can rot in hell, and enjoy the ride down!...ENJOY!
     
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    Especially considering that God is the source of our constitutional equality. "We hold these truths to be self evident..." Consequently, they love the gift but not the giver. It is utterly self centered, self indulgent, and myopic.
     
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    Yes, and that is why Franklin Graham feel the need to obsess over the “sins” of other people, to distract from their own. :cool:
     
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    It wasn't very self evident that everyone qualified for this equality though was it. God kinda swung and missed on that one for a couple centuries.
     
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    Which god? Could someone be so kind as to narrow it down to which one, of the thousands of gods, is being referred to? Many thanks!
     
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    It took awhile for people to catch up or align with the concept. Salvation is a similar path. It takes nothing away from God.
     
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    After the GOP elected Trump, they gave up the right to lecture me about morals. End of story.
     
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    Says the guy who's family have become very wealthy through scamming their belief in God.More religious hucksters,how many planes or yachts does Franklin have???
     
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    Franklin Graham the homophobic bigot? That Franklin Graham?
     
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    Not sure?....I assume its the Franklin Graham that has some pictures that need hiding, and gave the pool boy 1.8 million dollars?
    Franklin doing gods work, 1.8 million times!

    Franklin Graham, turning his back on God!......LOL
     
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    Rev. Graham should know better than to engage in such absurdity.

    Turned its back on "what God" - who is this God that Franklin is referring to and how does he know that this God does not think Christians are an anathema to the wishes of God. How does Franklin know what the thoughts of God are.

    Graham claims that the Dem's don't want God in Politics. This is moronic x 10. First off this is shilling for theocracy.

    The second problem is that Graham has no clue whether or not God things humans should have God in their politics. And even if God didn't mind - what on earth does this even mean. Since we don't know the thoughts of God - how could we introduce these thoughts into politics - even if we wanted to.

    Graham is a fool. Only a fool claims to speak for God.
     
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    Lee - did you not get the memo ? God is all "Love" but, God hates Homosexuals. Yes Yes ... I realize this is mindless gibberish but who are we to question a memo written by God ?
     
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    And when we narrow it down to the "right God"... how do we know what the thoughts of that God are such that we could follow this God ?
     
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    Really.. and you know this for a fact ? Did God sit down with you for tea the other day and tell you that She was the source of Constitutional Equality ?

    I have trouble believing your claim because when God sat down with me for tea the other day he said that he was not the source.

    I realize that through 12 years of school we manage not to teach the founding principles so I suppose your lack of understanding is to be expected.

    The purpose of invoking "the creator" - a term that specifically avoided invocation of the Christian God (leaving us to question what Creator is being referred to) - was simply to put individual liberty "ABOVE" the legitimate authority of Gov't.

    This means that Gov't is to have no ability to make "ANY LAW" - of its own volition - that messes with individual liberty - never mind messing with individual liberty on the basis of religious belief.

    With respect to the Christian God - and involving this God in civil affairs. The founders had a few very specific comments.

    Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one-half the world fools and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.
    -- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781-82

    Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind.
    -- John Adams, "A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America" (1787-88 ) , from Adrienne Koch, ed, The American Enlightenment: The Shaping of the American Experiment and a Free Society (1965) p. 258

    As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?-- John Adams, letter to FA Van der Kamp, December 27, 1816

    When philosophic reason is clear and certain by intuition or necessary induction, no subsequent revelation supported by prophecies or miracles can supersede it.-- John Adams, from Rufus K Noyes, Views of Religion, quoted from from James A Haught, ed, 2000 Years of Disbelief
     
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    Does anyone really think that an Omnipotent God would give a flying **** about politics? Really?
     
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    No but it would be nice.....He would be all for helping the homeless, the sick, disabled, elderly, and education for children!..............So hes sitting on his rear just watching...
     
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    And if the Jesus of the Bible were to return to earth tomorrow - He would certainly despise religious right zealots - and expressed his disgust for such zealots in no uncertain terms in his most famous of Sermons - Sermon on the Mount "Matt 5-7"
     
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    And I'm sure that Jesus would just be so proud of Republicans for electing Donald Trump ... cause there is NO ONE who embodies the will of God like Donald Trump ...
     
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    Don't want to turn this into a Trump bash fest as the issue is much bigger than Trump. What about the hoards of zealots who voted for Roy Moore ? - or re-election of the various neocons on both sides of the fence.

    One of the main criteria Jesus gave for "salvation" was helping the poor and the Golden Rule (do unto others as you would have done to you, Judge not lest you be Judged, Let ye who is without sin cast the first stone, love neighbor as self .. and so on)

    The religious right hates the Golden Rule. They are always trying to force their personal made up religious beliefs on others through physical violence (Law) ... along with other OT Laws (only the one's they agree with of course).

    The innate hypocrisy of these zealots is something that Jesus also railed against.

    These clowns better hope that the Jesus of Matt/Mark is fairy take - otherwise they are in deep doo doo.

    Perhaps the worst offence is the tendency of these zealots to "speak for God" .. claiming things like "God Says" and so on. This is usurping the position of Jesus "the Logos - emmissary between man and God who spoke Gods word through the Holy Spirit".

    This is what is referred to as the one "unforgivable sin".
     
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    Mere slander based in superstition, fiction, and myth. It is also a clear violation of the concept of separation of church and state. It's time for a legitimate, Constitutional Congress to act on such violations. We can only hope it would put an end to all our current "christianity" etc. because they are false "religions". Any honest person with a brain can see that.
     
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    It is doubly absurd that someone with the handle "Jefferson" has no clue about Jefferson's ideology.
     
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    Graham’s critic
    I totally disagree with all that you said but am glad that you are allowed to express your true feelings without being censored her on this site.
     
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