Greece Election

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  1. Bleipriester

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    Given that Greece will install a Marxist system, be sure, you will be isolated and the socialist currency will have no value in capitalist nations. You would need new friends to trade with them and make efforts to get forex. Well, 270 political parties signed the Pyongyang Declaration at present.



    If this is standard it should be the first thing that has to be on the table.



    It is not the only one but the only relevant one. They have lost about 50 % of the votes this time. The pseudo leftists seem to get more popular in Europe. Even the socialist party, the SED (GDR, East Germany) is one of them today (as "Die Linke", similar to Syriza).



    We also have a immunity. For every MP of our parliament. But we can zing them. But nobody does. The German press brought itself into line.
    Point two is even worse. Sounds like a mafia of corruption. Don´t they offer their "services" on ebay?



    Is there nobody to sue over this? What about the people who can not pay?
     
  2. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The medical situation in Greece has been one which has got quite a lot of reporting - from Pharmaceutical firms refusing to deliver because they have not been paid, to the ordinary person having difficulty getting medicines.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...ffers-no-relief-for-suffering-population.html

    http://neoskosmos.com/news/en/australian-medical-aid-to-greece
     
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    Not sure Germany is really evil, but She is a very obnoxious nation.

    Germany insists on severly punishing a poorer neighbor nation for minor faults when they have much more serious ones themselves. The governing party in Germany calls itself "Christian Democrat" but isn't willing to treat Greece the same way they would want to be treated if the situation were reversed, the most basic of the teachings of Jesus.
     
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    I also have heard about homeless people there. I am wondering, that this has no priority, while the government makes still crazy deals.
     
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    Germany is a great nation and gave the world so much. No way to blame a whole country for one government, even if the blame is justified.



    The most people have no clue what Germany has really claimed. It claimed to increase Brussels´s power like it does all the time. Germany is the propelling power behind the EU-process, but it is also the one that has no advantages from it. And when Germany is in a situation like Greece, who could bail us out?
    I am not a fan of or current policy, I never was a fan of the submissive Germany and so I am not a fan of the bigmouthed German politicians who saw a chance to speakt out.
     
  6. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    are you suggesting Germany has no homeless or are you referring to the new situation where family orientated Greek people are giving up their children being unable to afford to look after them and the old are sleeping on the streets?

    No priority to you that Greece cannot afford to pay for her medical supplies because of unworkable austerity measures insisted on by Germany. Greece needs the opportunity for a policy which has the possibility of presenting a future. At the same time there are certainly things which need to be tightened up, including taxes and corruption.

    When the situation gets into the position it is in now where the poor need soup kitchens, the old do not have enough to live on and the sick cannot get help, you are in a situation which promises disaster. Only austerity does not work and the poorest paying for the sharp or illegal practices of the super rich is not acceptable.

    I don't know if you can get this where you live but it is a documentary on how the Euro came into being.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01hy4xr/sign/The_Great_Euro_Crash_with_Robert_Peston/

    So rather than show hate or superiority, how is this to be sorted to achieve it's original premise - a peaceful Europe? Is it the two Europe's or do we just accept that the Euro did not work? How do we get investment and growth going under current austerity means?..and please have some compassion for the poor who are shouldering the magnitude of pain for something over which they are in no way responsible.

    A Golden Dawn in Greece is not going to cause the world too much problems even if it has far too many German submarines. Something similar in a unified Germany much more bothersome.

    On another forum there is a German Guy who is very level headed. It is a pity he or someone else is not here to speak. It is wrong to call German's evil or to compare the German's of today with the German's of the nazi era. Germany is possibly the least far right country in the Western world.

    Of course it is not all Germany's fault but the problem is Germany is pulling the strings and because of that bears a responsibility for the consequences and of course there no doubt still is a fear that a strong unified Germany, outside the Euro or in a disunited Europe, could be a danger to the rest of Europe - whether based of reality or not.
     
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    No, I mean it as consequence of the crisis. I saw it in a report that many Greeks lost their homes. Your reproachfully suspicions are baseless.
    As for Germany, every homeless German has made the decision to be homeless. He just would have to go to the welfare office with a tenancy agreement and there are constitutions for the case of need everywhere.


    Germany is not part of the Troika which consits of EU, ECB and IMF.
     
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    So what then were you saying?
     
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    Isn´t that apparent?
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    clearly not
     

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