Ground Zero Mosque Imam Rauf kicks off speaking tour at banquet of Hamas-linked group

I see you don't hold the principle "innocent until proven guilty" in very high esteem.
Surely you've got more information at hand as to which evidence there is against the ISNA and are willing to share it with us.

 

Ah yes, a tiny fraction of those who died or assisted in rescue efforts were Muslim... so we should all support Park 51 whole heartedly... oh brotha...

 

Which fire? Nobody would have ever heard of Rauf had Robert Spencer and his ilk not started it and turned the whole thing into a world-wide embarrassment for the USA. It's him and Fox that do the main fueling.

 

Did I just read you diminishing the dead, bravery and effort of fellow-Americans?

 

Yes, let's focus on the ~200 dead Muslims (including the 19 hijackers), and ignore the other 2800 dead Americans.

This is probably the only thing that these anti-Israel, Jew-hating, terrorist sympathizing, Islamoapologists lament about 9/11.

 

If they were found guilty in a court of law they'd be in jail. The court of public opinion is a totally different ballgame and they are completely guilty in this court. OJ murdered his wife and that other dude even though he was acquitted, Casey Anthony murdered her daughter even though she was acquitted. And these guys collected money for Hamas, they were part of the conspiracy even though they were not indicted. There is no doubt in any sane mind regarding all three of these cases.

 

It'd be an embarrassment if Americans remained passive as a "moderate" Imam hatched plans to build a mega mosque on the location where a building was closed due damages sustained by pieces of an aircraft that was used to kill thousands of innocent Americans.

It was inevitable, we never would have sat back and watched this thing go off without a hitch. Rightfully so. If Rauf has any sense, he'll relocate. By doing that, he'll do far more for U.S./Islam relations, than by building the thing.

 

I think Israel should build a synagogue on the spot where Baruch Goldstein murdered 29 arabs. The entire arab world will see it "as a potent symbol of tolerance to counter the religious extremism that prevailed on that day." Right juno? Would you support this idea?

 

Or maybe the majority of the M.E. should be forced to be less misogynistic, less anti-Western, more pro LGBT, more tolerant of Athiest/Christians... etc....

 

Do not expect an answer to this question.

Do expect a reply that attempts to redirect the conversation.

 

Hamas has changed since the late 1900's. So what if he's raising money for the, does Gaza not deserve money? We know "Israel" won't allow aid to go through to rebuild the buildings they bombed. Now money is forbidden?

Shouldn't call it the "Ground Zero Mosque". If anything, be fair. It's the "Islamic Centre 2 Blocks Away From Ground Zero".

This is the same Hamas that donated I think $130 000 to Somalia to feed some of the starving people there.

Might not seem like much, but considering the blockade and occupation, it means something.

Palestinian children in Gaza also donated money to Somali children. How sad is that?

 

I'm sure that no one has read about the Carmelite sisters who wanted to build a convent at Auschwitz concentration camp. After years of arguing and hard feelings between the Polish Jewish community and the Catholic sisters, Pope John Paul II stepped in and told the nuns to move their planned convent out of the camp, to another area that would still be close by but would prevent any further pain to the Jews.

It's about being sensitive to the feelings of those who were victimized. I see none of that from this imam at Ground Zero.

There is no comparison between John Paul and this imam.

 

Well, seeing as he killed those 29 people in a Mosque, you can see where the conflict would arise building a synagogue there.

Funny thing, like during 9/11 there were "Israeli's" dancing after both acts.

Hell, Goldstein is still seen as a hero to some "Israeli's"....

The World Trade Centre wasn't a Church. This was an attack on the country, not Christianity. Goldstein attack the Mosque, based on hatred for Muslims and Palestinians. Al Qaida did it because... Bush was bored?

 

Yeah, sounds like a great terrorist organization for a Muslim like you to support! I'm sure the zakat you give them will pay for a few RPG rounds that will be fired into an Israeli preschool. You should be so proud.

 

This isn't being build on the remains of the WTC.... If they wanted to build it on or beside the remains, then yeah there would be a huge issue and I'd condemn it 100% with you.

But it's 2 blocks away.... If they wanted to build a Church or Synagogue there would oppose it still?

 

Yeah, couldn't possibly be because your fellow Muslims did anything wrong. Of course not. I'm sure you'd get along fine with some of your brothers over there. Probably great dudes.

 

lol thank you for this thoughtful reply.

I support Hamas all the way. The Zakat I pay goes to people who need it, you know the less fortunate. Hamas isn't less fortunate. But I don't expect you to even know what Zakat is

Meanwhile, your American taxes pay not for helping Americans lives - but for taking Palestinian lives.

And as Lowkey puts it:

And when your sipping Coca-Cola,
That’s another pistol in the holster of a
soulless soldier

Long Live Palestine - great song btw.

Salam

 

The only church destroyed on 9/11 has still not been rebuilt and last I read, probably won't be. But from what I've read, this imam wants our tax dollars to help build his Victory mosque?

Unbelievable.

 

Ahaha thats funny. You consider Al Qaida Muslims??

The same Al Qaida that kills more Afghans than they do American soldiers? The same Al Qaida that blows up cars and themselves in Mosques? The same Al Qaida that has many of their top members affiliated with the CIA, including OBL and the guy who replaced him?

Sorry, but I don't believe "the Base" is very much Islamic....

I didn't say 9/11 was not wrong. Putting words in my mouth? Nice argument.

Salam

 

Cool. I hope the Canadian powers that be are monitoring you as a potential terrorist.

 

They act very much like Muhammad did. Considering its obligatory for Muslims to wage war against unbelievers, explain how Al Qaeda are "not Muslims".

 

Maybe if you weren't so focused on the "Victory Mosque" being built 2 blocks away you could start rebuilding that Church?? Crazy idea, but worth considering I think.

"Victory Mosque".... In what ways did the Muslims of America, Afghanistan, and Iraq (as well as around the world) "win" by what went down on 9/11?? Explain how I, a Muslim now persecuted for my faith, a winner by some "Islamic" group killing 3 000 innocent people. Please, share with me how I "won" from 9/11 or how any Muslim "won" from 9/11.

Salam

 

Support for this center is fine as it's to be built two blocks away... but opposition for the same reason is not?

 

They certainly seemed happy about it, dancing in the streets and all. Why don't you ask them?

 

lol

Oh really, explain how they act like Mohammed PBUH did.

It never gets boring hearing non-Muslims telling me they think my religion tells me to do, you know that. Even better when the non-Muslims haven't even read a Surah from the Quran (or even know what a Surah is).

I gave a breif explanation in the post you quoted. Did you even bother reading it?