There sure is a knife ban in the UK. One can't carry around a folding blade under 4 inches long outside their home. They also can't carry a folding or hunting knife on their person in a public place "without cause." Of course the Brits that like these laws are spineless worms who mollycoddle criminals and Muslims who could care less about laws.
@aldal has not been back to this forum in over a week. That makes me wonder if he/she is not really just a troll.
@AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS , I can't tell if you are male or female, but nice Playboy bunny pin up though !!
...and yet the London Metropolitan Police had to deploy tactical teams to combat the growing gang warfare that included drive by shootings.... although British gangs seem to prefer shooting each other in the legs rather than killing each other. Guns are still used by criminals, and as opposed to being pot-metal .32s and .22s like they once were they now use Italian-made submachineguns. Tell yourself whatever you have to, because whether you like it or not you have surrendered your freedoms in favor of government control.
I agree with you @vman12 -- I feel sorry for them too. Just yesterday in our State a concealed carrying resident stopped a robber dead in his tracks and held him there under citizen's arrest until the police arrived. Here in the Rocky Mountains (Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, and New Mexico) about 10% of the population has a CFP and maybe half of them actually carry a firearm with them most of the time. I carry my 45ACP with me 24/7/365 everywhere I go. Even to church. Dylann Roof proved that you need one in church too, not just on the street. God did not make all men equal. Samuel Colt did.
Also completely ignores the fact that Britain is much stricter on what it defines as violent crime as I pointed out in my last post. Obviously the partisan hacks won't bother to read the report but here it is again for anyone interested in the truth, https://dispellingthemythukvsusguns.wordpress.com/
That's what the people have signed up for - it's called democracy - we don't want guns - you're welcome to your 30,000 gun deaths a year - we'd rather not.
That kind of stat is never out of date. A nation of defenseless victims quickly becomes a nation of criminal predators. “According to a new victimisation survey of industrialised nations, people in England and Wales are at greater risk than anywhere else of having a car stolen. And apart from Australia, people who live in England and Wales are at greater risk of being assaulted, robbed, sexually attacked and having their homes burgled than are people in any other rich country.” The Economist, A nation of criminals, Feb 22nd 2001. http://www.economist.com/printedition/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=513031 I stopped following the story when it became clear hat the UK gun ban had failed while creating a "nation of criminals".
Which is precisely why the only other nation in the world where I would be happy living besides the USA would be perhaps Switzerland. They also have high gun ownership like the USA.
really? You want to compare statistics on drive by shootings? We have kept our freedom to walk the streets or sit in our homes without fear of being shot. You on the other hand are so scared you feel the need to arm yourselves. Enjoy your freedom to die in a hail of bullets suckers...
I believe that anyone that owns more than a single pistol needs a tall gun safe to keep it in. For a single pistol you can and should keep it on your person 24/7/365 and under your pillow while you sleep. You don't need a gun safe then. You can get a gun box for your car and bolt the box to the frame of the car and lock up the pistol/revolver in the box when it is not on your person. In addition to my pistol I also have a riot shotgun (means a short barreled shotgun with a long magazine tube), a scoped hunting rifle, and a short barreled carbine, together with my tall gun safe which I keep them all in. The gun safe law is a good law. I wish everyone with a gun had a gun safe.
That suggestion has not worked in California, New York State, New York City, DC, NJ, Mass, or several of the other mid-Atlantic states. England is hopeless. They will always need to depend on the USA to be the arsenal of democracy, just like the last time in 1939 - 1945. The English are lucky we like them. We are Anglophiles. We are also Francophiles. That's lucky for the French too. Same reason -- 1939 - 1945.
If I ever wanted to kill myself I would simply drink a gallon of vodka and go peacefully rather than shoot myself with one of my guns.
Yes I'm blessed to live in an area that is much the same. A large number of our community also conceals every day, because evil people's favorite targets are the areas people feel the most safe, and in areas where they are the most vulnerable. My wife and I both carry for the same reasons.
The main problem in the USA regarding guns and gun laws is that the majority of Americans have no experience with guns and therefore they fear and hate them. The solution to this problem would be to teach the youth how to shoot. But we don't do that.
I'll say that anyone who owns a gun should invest in things like safes to keep their firearms out of the wrong hands. I own a safe and a two car lockboxes for that reason. I don't really agree that it should be a law though, because it's just one more area they can abuse and infringe our rights on.
Actually with Trump/Pence and the GOP Senate there IS a chance. Kennedy and Thomas are due to retire, and Ginsberg is due to croak. Breyer may retire or croak soon too.
Yah he [ @aldal ] was some kind of interloper and he did not quote any English laws off the internet as you would expect someone to do. Ergo seems like a troll post to me too. I know that shotguns are perfectly legal in England and most of Europe and if you want to convert a shotgun to a handgun all you need is a hacksaw and a little time to do it.
Ok nobody gave a citation and link to the current UK gun laws so for the benefit of discussion and debate I am going to do that now and cite them below. Then we need some links to some crime stats too, so I will do that as well. Then we can all discuss this particular question about guns in the UK versus guns in the USA further. N'est pas? By the way I like Wikipedia even though it is not a primary source. So I always start with it first. If I need to then I will drill down to other primary sources. But Wiki is faster, and this is not civil nor criminal court.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_policy_in_the_United_Kingdom In the United Kingdom, access by the general public to firearms is tightly controlled by law which is much more restrictive than the minimum rules required by the European Firearms Directive, but it is less restrictive in Northern Ireland. The country has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world.[1] There were 0.05 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants in the five years to 2011 (15 to 38 people per annum). Gun homicides accounted for 2.4% of all homicides in the year 2011.[2] There is some concern over the availability of illegal firearms.[3][4][5] Office for National Statistics figures show 7,866 offences in which firearms were involved in the year ending March 2015, 2% up on the previous year and the first increase in 10 years. Of these 19 were fatalities, 10 fewer than the previous year and the lowest since records began in 1969.[6] Members of the public may own sporting rifles and shotguns, subject to licensing, but handguns were effectively banned after the Dunblane school massacre in 1996 with the exception of Northern Ireland. Dunblane was the UK's first and only school shooting. There has been one spree killing since Dunblane, in June 2010 involving a legally owned shotgun. Police in Great Britain (but not Northern Ireland) are not routinely armed.[7][8][9] Fatal shootings of police are extremely rare; there were three in England and Wales in the eleven-year period from 2000/01 to 2010/11.[10] Armed response units are available to deal with incidents, and around 7,000 police officers have received firearms training.[9][11]
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jan/21/england-wales-homicides-rise-knife-gun-crime The number of homicides in England and Wales rose by 71 to 574 in the 12 months to September 2015 - an increase of 14% fuelled by rises in knife and gun crime, official statistics show. The rise in the number of homicides brings to an end a decade in which the murder rate in England and Wales has been falling despite the continued growth in the population. The quarterly crime figures published by the Office for National Statistics show a 6% increase in overall crime to 4.3 million offences as recorded by the police in the 12 months to September alongside an apparent 6% fall as measured by the separate crime survey of England and Wales. The ONS said the 6% fall was not statistically significant compared with the previous year’s estimate.
