Guns Everywhere.... lol 63,402 background checks a day...

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  1. Ethos

    Ethos New Member

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    Last year there were 23,141,970 background checks done for guns in the US by the FBI with the NCIS system. That's 63,402 background checks per day... think about that for a moment.... Also keep in mind that in many states if you have a carry permit or purchase permit (like in Nebraska, Texas, or Utah) no background check is required through NCIS because you are already cleared... the numbers are amazing. Then think about the fact that person to person sales are not recorded in most states.

    63,402 background checks a day... many of those are for multiple firearm sales also, so 1 background check could be for 3 guns. What a number..... and the murder rate is still going down. Go figure.
     
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    There are many who would claim that this is an "epidemic". Look at the murder rate in the U.S. Discount all that are committed by known felons, who are prohibited from gun ownership. The remainder amounts to a violent crime rate that is similar to any other industrialized Nation, anywhere in the world.
    From that, we can figure that at least 63,000 responsible people are buying guns, every single day.
    How many of those guns will be used, this year, to prevent violent crime, or to stop a violent criminal?
     
  3. Ethos

    Ethos New Member

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    They can call it an epidemic, but our own governments website says they're full of cr@p (FBI.gov). If we took out all the murders done by repeat offenders, our rate would be much much less. However, the 63,402 is the number of background checks from law abiding citizens, not criminals with a past history that buy from another criminal (no bgc done).
     
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    Great, more people exercising their rights.
     
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    Seems the only healthy part of our economy is created by the 2nd Amendment. That's a good thing.
     
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    They are so dam busy checking on law -bidden Americans there don't even bother with the foreigners .
     
  7. Regular Joe

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    I hope you weren't trying to "tell me" that.
     
  8. Ethos

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    ... I sort of was... I took your 63,000 number literally, like you left off the 402 as those were suspected criminals. This however brings me to actually analyze this a little more... The FBI says that 73% of murders that take place are done by repeat offenders meaning that the other 27% we will assume fit into that BGC number of 63,402. In 2014 there were 8124 people killed with firearms, take out the repeat offenders and your left with 2193 murders from new people. If we take 2193 people and divide that number of murderers that were legally able to buy firearms by the days in a year, it comes out to 6 people a day. So, out of the 63,402 background checks done a day, 6 of those people each day would go on to murder someone. That means that 63,396 people who had a BGC did not go on to kill someone.

    Now, I am using 2014's murder numbers with 2015's gun sales which is better for the anti gun people because there were more than likely less murders in 2015 as far as the downward trend in murders is going. However, the numbers for 2014 were 20,968,574 which was 57,448 a day. That means that the actual numbers in 2014 were that 57,448 people a day that did BGC's, 6 of those a day went on to commit murder. I still used 2015's numbers because that's what was originally stated.
     
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    People around here thrive on statistics. What your numbers boil down to is 0.01% of new guns sold in America are used to kill another person. If that number isn't small enough, divide your 2,193 murders by your 21 Million new guns.
    Life is dangerous. There are a great many things that claim 1 person in a thousand each year.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Apples and oranges.The FBI statistics are a percentage of murders not of guns. And, even if you were to try to extrapolate some relationship of guns to that 27% of your 8124 murders you'd have to do against the nearly 400 million guns in civilian hands...
     
  11. Ethos

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    It wouldn't work like that, the 400+ million is of guns legally out there already, not the 27% of murders done by "new" criminals. I had the numbers and correlation correct.
     

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