Hands Off Operation Warp Speed

LOL. He has trouble with the difference between a viral and a bacterial infection, he certainly doesn't know the difference between a RNA (a method that was never applied in quantity) and a classical vaccine, but he KNEW better than the scientists when the vaccine would be ready? Let's say, blowing hot air sometimes gets you a win, if you blow hot air often enough.

 

Then how did this approval get through the FDA in record time?

 

The FDA hasn't approved yet. However, it is safe to say that ANY administration at this point would push for emergency FDA approval, unless there are significant concerns with safety. I don't think that's the case, however.

 

The win is getting the vaccination. A vaccination that the so called experts said would not happen for another year. And here we have three different versions almost ready to go.

It is a Trump legacy that we should all be thankful for. Even democrats, however my guess is that will never happen. They would rather die from the virus than give Trump credit for anything.

 

I hope so. The article suggests Biden's comittees would go along with the WHO's wishes to doll out the doses equally, irrespective of who paid what when, which is precisely what I would expect the Biden admin to do- bend over and spread em to the world.

Here's hoping they won't (but c'mon, they totally will).

 

Is the WHO not suggesting that much of our order be delayed?

 

Did our order include any specifications regarding delivery? Was it 'ASAP', or 'by such and such date' or 'whenever the WHO says so'?

 

December 10th the FDA is meeting and will decide if bioNtech's vaccine will get approval.

 

They are flying vaccine doses already to the US. They are than warehoused by Pfizer.
After the approval they will be distributed.
The flights from Belgium needed special approval, because of the large amount of dry ice, it releases CO2.

 

oh and I suppose Trump had nothing to do with getting it to phase 3 clinical trials in record time? Don't let your hate for Trump distort reality. This is all thanks to HIM.

 

Do you think the WHO should have any say in how many of our payed-for doses we should recieve and when?

 

Absolute no say.
Everybody gets what they payed for.
But I would say the industrialized or more wealthy countries, like the G20, should help the poor 3 world countries.

 

It just magically happened and every one in the world except President Trump can claim credit for it. In reality it happened as fast as it did because of Trump.

 

No vaccine approved jet.

 

The WHO has no say how the vaccine will be distributed world wide. It does not own the vaccines, nor do the Western Governments, including the US. They are private property.
The WHO can only ask for donation, financial, or actual vaccines, which it would than distribute to the poorer Nations.
Naturally the WHO is worried that vaccination, or the ability to buy a vaccine, becomes a matter who can dole out the money and if you can't, tough luck.
The Oxford/Astra vaccine problems are very bad for organization like WHO, because they plan to sell their vaccine at cost, $ 2.00.
BioNtech/Pfizer or Moderna are in for the money, billions. BP costs $19,95, M in the middle 20s close to $30.

 

I will profit through the stock I bought, I am roughly up by 170%, I like that, money well spent.
Germany will profit through taxation of the huge profit, which will be made and easily gets it non refundable grant of 400 million back. The tax will even pay for what ever doses they will buy outside the EU contract.
BioNtech as of now is cutting edge research company into mRNA vaccines, specialized on cancer, several cancer vaccines are in Phase one, very promising stuff. The company will make for the first time a profit, in the billions, probably in the 10s of billions.
They will drown in money and than can accelerate their original programs. Expect cancer vaccines on mRNA tech in a year.
Money is the gas pedal.

The WHO has not purchased any doses, of any possible manufacture, its not its job. The members of WHO can do that.

The US purchased from B/P 100 million doses, $ 1.95 billion and has an option to purchase 500 million more, for the same price.
The EU bought 200 million, same price and has an option for 100 million.
B/P can produce till years end around 50 million doses, maybe 60 million. Europe bought first and 200 million, so they get it first and a larger share than the US, pending approval, FDA and EMA. Lets not forget that minor detail.
The vaccine gets distributed, by approval, who bought first and what quantities.
Its business, even in a world wide human crisis.

I always warn folks to get over exited, because of the gigantic amount of doses needed. Those are 2 shot vaccines. 10 million sounds a lot, but they will take only care of 5 million people and it takes 4 weeks till immunization is completed.
Production: B/P will be able to do around 1.3 billion doses in 2021, that is 650 million. But the US and the EU alone are over 800 million people.
That's why other vaccines, Moderna, the Chineses, curevac and so are so badly needed. Johnson and Johnson, Oxford Asteca.
At least 5 billion people have to be vaccinated to get a hold of the pandemic
The industrialized countries will get the vaccines first, because they have the money. Which is ok with me, because we produce the money.
Money talks, nothing wrong with that.

Have I explained things well enough ?

 

Far more than well enough.

My only point is that the WHO should have no say in how vaccines are allocated unless it is actually providing (read: paying for) them. And to be fair, I understand what is doing now is merely suggesting.

Im worried that Biden&Co will follow its 'suggestions'. Here's hoping to be proven wrong.

 

The US is not any more a member of the WHO.
So if Biden declares, that the US would join the WHO again, it would not be a over night thing.
Pulling out is easy, but rejoining ain't.

Yes there is serious discussion between the WHO members how to get those vaccines distributed and who will pay for it.
But we are talking about a world wide project, a world wide effort, which will take several years. 5 billion people is the minimum.
At the present 10 billion doses at least, that is huge.
If we can get the G 20 vaccinated next year, just those plus all of the EU and the USA, this would be a huge success, gigantic, but it would take around 4 billion doses, around 2 billion people.
Just for next year

One has to just sit down for a moment, to get a grasp, of the numbers and than think of the infrastructure, which needs to be developed, world wide.

The WHO is a infrastructure, nothing more, to which members donate, when it comes to that.

 

You have good reason to worry about Biden and those suggestions.

 

We spend around 700 billion on defense.

Were we to put half that much into medical research we would have cured cancer by now but defense kills far fewer people.

We are bloody insane, no question.