Harry Reid Threatens to Shut Down the Gov't Unless the House "accepts"

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The House needs to grow up and vote on a bill that ONLY funds the govt.

    We will not negotiate with terrorists.
     
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    Is what the GOP did in the house any different to Obama/The Senate threatening to shut the government if they don't pass gun control or immigration reform?
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Using a government shutdown to extort massive changes in govt. that you cannot accomplish through normal voting, is legislative terrorism.

    The GOP can't repeal ObamaCare. They tried 50 times. They lost the vote 50 times.

    You guys need to grow up and deal with your loss.
     
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    Anarchy is alive and well.
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let us know when the Democrats shut down the govt. in order to get gun control or immigration reform passed.
     
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    They haven't, that was my point. We're on the same page lol.
     
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    The House has already done exactly as you have asked. So you have had your wish.

    From this point forward the House needs to get on with governing. Let each appropriations bill be passed out of the House and forwarded to the Senate. Disregard the democrats posturing and do not budge. As each Appropriation bill is passed then remove that from the CR. Pass good bills that reduce federal spending in most areas.

    And why would you negotiate with yourselves?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that is a lie.

    The House has yet to vote on a continuation budget that simply funds the govt.

    Boehner won't let them. ObamaCare is not discretionary spending, which is why it went into affect yesterday.

    A bill that simply funds the govt., won't hurt ObamaCare one dime.
     
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    Think of it as a lesson in liberty. We do not need nor do we want most of what happens to us as a result of the Federal government becoming an uncontrolled national government. The longer this goes on the more Americans will realize how good it is to have less government.

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    They are not repealing it. They are defunding it.
     
  10. DevilMay

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    Extreme rightwingers are so rabidly desperate to take down Affordable Care that ANY tactic is acceptable to them. The ends justify the means - despite the means not actually getting them anywhere. They must KNOW that Obama isn't going to negotiate with legislative terrorists ...

    These so-called fiscally responsible people are also causing the US economy to haemorrhage BILLIONS every day of the shutdown. In UK they'd be known as "swivel eyed loons" :)
     
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    why not defund it in a seperate bill?

    why attach it to funding for the entire govt?

    why are they holding govt. funding hostage to funding for ObamaCare?

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    I have a great idea.

    Its pretty genius.

    The House votes on a bill that ONLY funds the govt.

    No strings attached.

    sounds good huh?
     
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    All Don Quixotes should rally around the "Liberty Amendments. Just stop shutting down the government.
     
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    "He who is without sin, cast the first stone". "Judge not, that ye be not judged."

    The question was "You think that it is alright to hurt people for any reason that you like?" I do not care about a political rant from you. Please tell me why you like to hurt average American people?

    You really can not reply to my post because you know what I said is true. We have had enough political speeches in the last week. Is it so hard to answer my question: "Do you feel good about hurting people as a political stunt?"?
     
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    You do quickly take up your marching orders. Of what value is doing individual appropriation bills one a day? Absolutely no value. Small minded people do not care who they hurt while they perform for the tealiban.
     
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    Yes, the low informed are fodder for the right wing propaganda machine. Parrots, all.

    The cuts started happening in 2011 but, because some right wing talking head lied to you about, you and the propaganda machine just continue to parrot the lie.
     
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    Yes, some fools do not even know what a clean continuing resolution means.
     
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    Why yes. Has Obama or the Senate shut down the government? I agree that it would be nice if the Senate sent a clean resolution back to the House with a condition that the House pass immigration reform but, unfortunately the Senate will not play the same childish games.
     
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    By 72 percent to 22 percent, Americans oppose Congress “shutting down major activities of the federal government” as a way to stop the Affordable Care Act from going into effect, the national survey from Quinnipiac University found

    By 64 percent to 27 percent, voters don’t want Congress to block an increase in the nation’s $16.7 trillion federal borrowing limit as a way to thwart implementation of the health- care law, which Obama signed into law in 2010 with a goal of insuring millions of Americans, known as “Obamacare.”

    A majority of the public, 58 percent, is opposed to cutting off funding for the insurance program that begins enrollment today. Thirty-four percent support defunding it.



    All this does not seem to get through the right wing bubble.
     
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    Because Harry Reid has a bad habit of never allowing such legislation to the floor for a vote, so he must be forced to.
     
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    Getting rid of MaO'bama care is the ultimate help to Americans. This law is a disaster on every level. Even hisloserness knows that, but he maintains the ruse. Principles are far more important than a partisan law that only leftist losers voted for. That is called tyranny.
     
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    There will have to be an organization formed that includes all fifty states with leadership and a whole host of other infrastructure necessities. I agree it needs to be done. But it needs to be done right.

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    With out MaO'bama care it is clean.
     
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    Do you ever post without referencing "Mo'Bama" or "leftist losers"?
     
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    Never Right does what's he's paid to do.
     
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    I do not care what your opinions are on ACA. Hurting Americans for no reason is the question. The right likes to hurt people on principles.
     
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    Why are you lying about the situation? Did the bubble tell you to say that.
     

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