Harvard Grad Student Facing Eviction over Legally Owned and Stored Firearms

Too bad, because the police have to protect themselves. And I am sorry. The town police carry guns.

 

It's not "too bad". It's illegal to initiate a Terry Stop (at least in this State) merely because someone has a weapon. And the way I carry is so unique that I doubt even a veteran cop would even notice.

 

It is not illegal if the police feel threatened.

 

Why would they feel threatened by a firearm they don't even know is there?

 

No, and they wouldn't want to see a permit either.

 

Logical fallacies aren't relevant when you're talking about how the law actually works. The basis for this conversation was you not understanding the difference between metal and wood and a living breathing intellectual being and the difference between the two when it comes to application of the law.

Ineligible Gotcha on the field. 5 Yard penalty.

That's all well and good but you still can't use statistics to figure out specifics about individual people.

 

except the thread topic is not ‘the law,’ hence your fallacy. we are discussing whether it is rational or not to evict someone from an apartment for something not illegal, not prohibited by the lease, and frankly not known save for the sniveling little ****s invading their roommate’s privacy because they didn’t like her trump hat. i say no it is not. no more rational than not renting to a black even though they are ~767% more likely to commit a homicide than a non black.

the takeaway? prejudice against blacks is wrong, even in the face of their higher statistical probability for violence. but prejudice against law-abiding gun owners seeking advanced degrees at a an overtly liberal university is just fine, even in the face of their negligible statistical probability for violence.

viewed objectively, both are irrational.

 

At least in my state you HAVE to have a fence around your pool or you can be fined. Autos require licenses and registration to own and opioids are just about impossible to get nowadays unless you have cancer. If any of those 3 were guns, we would have a lobby in Congress demanding that you be allowed to conceal your pool under a grass appearing camouflage, stating that driver's licenses were unConstitutional and requiring that teachers be given Percocets to calm down unruly children. Guns. Are. Dangerous. Things. and landlords have every right to say that their tenants shouldn't be allowed to bring dangerous things onto their property

 

not your call to make for someone else.

 

red herring.

guns are inanimate objects. alcohol is dangerous. should landlords have the right to prohibit their adult tenants from keeping and consuming alcohol? toasters are dangerous if thrown into the bath. candles can burn the whole place down. toasters and candles prohibited by the lease ok with you? .

blacks are statistically 767% more dangerous than whites. no blacks on the property. good policy.

 

Just my opinion, as you have your opinion.

 

Other people's feelings DO NOT TRUMP MY RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN OF THE USA!!!!!!!
I'm sorry if you think they do, but just because I might "hurt someone's feelings" doesn't make something wrong or by any means illegal. I'll never agree with that by any means. Now, I do my best to make others happy in society as long as doing so doesn't invade on my own privacy, rights, or safety.
As for my second A opinions, I couldn't care less if people don't agree with me. I don't rush into their homes and say "YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GUN!!!!" I also wouldn't want them trying to rush into my home saying "You can't have that gun" even though that is exactly what they do so many times!
As for this being the only room to rent at Harvard..... I think your response about the MAGA hat says alot about why you are so dead set that this person was wrong. If the gun was in her room, then they should have kept their butts out of the room. That room was her private area and she is entitled to have privacy even if it is in the house with other people. If she had left it lying in a commons area loaded, then yea, I could see maybe having a problem with it.

 

Try to keep up! The article clearly said she had an ex that had a history of violence in the past. That gun being loaded in her room had NO chance of doing anything wrong, and if you think it would, you are sadly mistaken.
As for how she was protecting herself, I think you know very well EXACTLY how she would have protected herself IF the need were to arise, and I hate to tell you, but she deserves that right just as every other American does. Sad that so many people expect the police to "protect" them. Funny, when you're more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a law abiding citizen with a gun!

 

Id go so far as to say that if her room had a door on it, the gun was secured. What business does those living with her have in her room? If you can give me a realistic answer to that, I'll go on.... Until someone can tell me what business they had in her room looking for the gun, the rest of the arguments are moot!
Your definition of responsible is probably much different than mine. As a person that owns many guns, and have had them loaded for years, I know they are secured and safe even if they don't have a lock attached to them. Secured is different in different situations. Some of us are smart enough to realize that an unloaded gun is about as useful as a stick, and to us, that IS responsible.

 

Show me a case where a gun has gotten up without the help of a human being and killed anyone! Until then, hide in a corner and suck your toe because there are over 400 million guns in America. Watch out!!!! there is one behind you!!!!!

 

Do I need a fire extinguisher if I never plan to cook in my house? Hmmm Maybe....

 

But if it's not specifically mentioned in the lease, she should be allowed to stay until the end of the lease, especially since 1) she followed all applicable laws and 2) it was found by a roommate trespassing in her room. I have no problem with her getting kicked out at lease renewal time, but it seems irrational to do so at this time.

 

There is so much wrong with this!!!! I have nothing against you storing your guns however you choose, but to demonize a legal owner of property because someone else decides to break the law is crazy. I'm sorry, but you lost any respect I could have had for your opinion when you said it was the owners responsibility to ensure the gun could never be stolen.
You can't criminalize people for illegal actions of others. Would it also be my fault if someone stole my car and ran over three people? What if I left my keys in the car? Should I be responsible? Victims are NOT criminals.... Its not legal for people to steal. It happens. Stop trying to act like what you do is so perfect and what others do is not. Just because your gun is in a biometric safe doesn't mean it couldn't be stolen.
I've never met a person that wakes up in the morning and says "Oh, I think I'll get my gun stolen today, and I hope they use that gun for mischief."

 

Lol...Like the soft impressionable brains of right-wingers who sink into paroxysms of fear over the sight of a swarthy foreigner or a woman in a veil, eh?
Now you know how Muslims and blacks feel when they are profiled and harassed by ignorant cowards on the right.
In the case of right-wingers, it might be justified since they are the ones committing mass murders in the US and our gun laws are a joke. Right-wingers with guns are now valid suspects when it comes to eliminating domestic terrorism.

 

While there are plenty of IF's in life, I'd like to point out a few to you....
Wear your seatbelt because IF you're involved in a crash it could save your life.
Keep a fire extinguisher in your house because IF there is a fire it will put it out.
Don't cross the road without looking both ways IF you don't want to have a higher chance of getting hit by a car.

There are roughly 38k deaths per year by guns, and about 24k of those are self inflicted suicides which can't be contributed to the gun itself.
That leave about 13k gun deaths per year for all other categories including justifiable homicides by the police.
NOW, take into account that guns are used to save lives ALOT more than that. According to the CDC reports those numbers are between 500,000 and 3 million LIVES PER YEAR!
https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#15
If you'd like to read, please feel free to check out my source.....

SO!!! yea, I think owning a gun is just as important as owning a fire extinguisher. I don't plan to use either, but you better bet they are both loaded and ready just in case....

 

You might want to check out the facts about who is doing all the mass shootings!!! Sorry to tell ya, but it isn't just right wingers. Yep, there are probably some, but just as many of them or more are hell bent left nutjobs!
You know very well that there aren't any left or right wing people in their right minds waiting to commit mass murder. You simply use this just as the other gun grabbers do to try and scare people into making laws that violate everyone's rights.
I for one am sick of it, and simply point out the obvious.

 

Why did you not reply to the question you quoted?

 

She is not being victimized nor is she being criminalized. Buy she is an irresponsible gun owner.

 

Good then you should support much more restrictive gun laws to keep guns out of the hands of the people who are not in their right minds.

 

Bet even you probably don't leave loaded guns where anyone can get a hold of them.