Has anyone noticed..................

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  1. CatholicCrusader

    CatholicCrusader Banned

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    Has anyone noticed that there are more threads attacking the Catholic Church in here than anything else? Last time I looked, we were not blowing up troops with IED's, we were not blowing up buildings with planes, and we were not strapping on backpacks and screaming "Jesus is great" as we blow up a fruit market. I guess cowards feel safe aattacking us because they know that if they attack a Muslim they'll get their throat slliced.

    I also noticed that no other Christian denomination gets the attention we do: Lutherans, Anglicans, Pentascostals, Methodists, etc. etc.

    Well, I feel blessed to be Catholic. And I know one thing, the devil knows his true enemy, so the fact that so many pinheads and God-haters focus on us tells me that I am in the right Church.
     
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    Irishman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was born and raised Catholic but I no longer practice, just ignore the haters. For some reason the left has their own crusade to bring down the Catholic Church.
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Persecution mania now as well as right-wing nuttery? Poor chap.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm pretty sure there are a lot more posts attacking Obama than the Catholic church.
     
  5. CatholicCrusader

    CatholicCrusader Banned

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    As a fellow Irishman, we can always use guys like you to ccome back. :)\

    LOL. True. But I was referring the the "Religion" section specifically
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like to me that your a bit insecure about your religious convictions. If you feel that you need to go online and shout out to the whole world that you belong to the right church, then its not unreasonable to assume that you possibly have some issues with your faith.
     
  7. Bishadi

    Bishadi Banned

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    funny post dude.


    another crack up


    i only ask that when the loot the vatican to be nice to the library. I bet they have information in them vaults that could be good for mankind.
     
  8. CatholicCrusader

    CatholicCrusader Banned

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    Not at all. As I said, the devil knows his true enemy, so the fact that so many pinheads and God-haters focus on us tells me that I am in the right Church. The thread is merely an observation
     
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    you're the one with the sword, opening the catholic threads, and picking the fights.......................

    you're the evidence: the bad guys do know their adversary; you're ready to fight everyone!

    'we the people' are your brothers.......

    if you hold pride over truth, you will lose!

    as then I am YOUR enemy!
     
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    Crawdadr Well-Known Member

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    Funny I thought the most common were those attacking Islam.......oh wait.
     
  11. JoanofArc

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    SPLC

    Catholics and Conspiracies
    Intelligence Report, Winter 2006, Issue Number: 124
    by Heidi Beirich

    http://www.splcenter.org/get-inform.../winter/the-new-crusaders/catholics-and-consp

    I like the following article. It pretty much sums up the answer to your question...

    The beauty nurtured in the Church is proof of God’s existence
    Photo of Fr. Brankin. Go to Fr. Brankin's bio.Sixth Sunday of Easter, 2012
    Fr. Anthony Brankin

    ...The ancient fight of Satan

    And what fight you ask? Well, there may be skirmishes here and there about this or that issue, but always the fight is the Ancient fight of Satan against God—Lucifer versus the Lord of Life and Love—and against His Presence in the world, the Catholic Church.

    And the ambassadors of Satan—modern secular media and opinion and government will use every possible technique and strategy to wage this war against God.

    Right now the battle is on as it has not been on for a while. They are pommeling us in the media. Every half-literate columnist or politician who can put a sentence together has joined the propaganda machine and day after day, they talk about how the Church is waging war against the nuns or against women or against children or against families or against progress or against Barack Obama or against the poor—or anything else they can dream up.

    And you can tell that this is what is going on when they reference their inventions as something that “The Vatican” is doing. As if The Vatican is some evil mysterious personless force that oozes out of Rome to flood and darken the minds and lives of free-born Americans. The Vatican…. The other one is The Bishops.

    The target is the Church

    You will notice, they never give the reader an opportunity to think clearly about the issues. What they write is always a hysterical attempt to persuade everyone about how terrible the Church is.

    Always the target is the Catholic Church. It is not that they do not also despise the little evangelicals and Baptists and Lutherans. They hate them as well—but they know that if they want to go after God most effectively and most directly, they have to go up against us.

    Make no mistake about it— we as members of the Catholic Church are on the front lines in this fight. When the Sun-Times and New York Times and the Tribunes and all their minions talk about how terrible this or that Catholic policy or program is, or how unfair this or that teaching is, or how evil all their priests are, they are trying to get us to disbelieve in the Church—and therefore, eventually, disbelieve in God.

    They want to get us to the point where—because of all that we have heard from them—we will ask ourselves: why should I remain a Catholic? Why should I still believe? If all that the modern media says about the Vatican and about the Bishops is true, then why should I stay? They know that once they get us to leave the Church, we will pretty much stop believing in anything supernatural and begin to believe everything they tell us.

    Argument from beauty

    So I spend my days trying to come up with some sort of personal defense of my own faith so that I might be strong, and then be able to share some insight or strength with you.

    Now, what I sometimes think is the best possible defense against our godless and secular culture is what I call the Argument from Beauty. The Argument from Beauty asks us to look at all the genuine, sincere and deep beauty that Catholics have created in and for the world since her beginnings.

    And again, I am not talking (this time) about music and painting and sculpture and architecture. I am talking about the beauty of people’s lives and how for two thousand years we as Catholic people do beautiful things—sometimes heroic— sometimes pretty humble—but what we do week after week is beautiful. Either we feed the poor or heal the sick or just simply raise our children to do good things.

    Proving the truth and goodness of God

    Look at what we are doing today. In this Crowning of the Blessed Virgin Mary as the Queen of hearts—by the very children who yesterday received the Son of Mary into their hearts. We are proving the Truth and Goodness of God by the Beauty of our celebration. This is the Argument from Beauty par excellence.

    I think we could say that the beauty of our religion—in all its customs and traditions and ceremonies is—in a very real sense—a proof of the truth of our religion. And how is that? Because beauty—true beauty that pleases and delights—the beauty of a sunset or the beauty of a face that stops us in our tracks—the beauty of a sculpture or of an athlete or a mural — or the beauty of little children putting a beautiful crown on the Beautiful Virgin causes us wonder and joy and an exaltation of the heart that cannot explain itself...

    They will lose this war

    And those who write the lines of our culture and who fight the Church at every turn and who spare no expense to demean and denigrate the Church for everything the Church does and stands for and teaches will never understand that it is they who will lose this war. For they and their arguments and their conclusions are ugly. And they are up against Beauty, who of course, is no less than God.

    http://greatcatholichomilies.com/20...church-is-proof-of-god’s-existence-full-text/
     
  12. gamewell45

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    An unsolicited observation nonetheless.
     
  13. JoanofArc

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    Regarding protestant anti-Catholicism, this answer is spot on...

    They all belong to their create your own religion sects. They reject the only Church founded by Jesus and not only reject it but protest its very existence and veracity. This is evidence of a lack of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit because when one accepts Christ into their lives and believed in Him and grace becomes abundant. They are so full of pride at their own creation that there is no room for God's grace. One full of grace would not lie so egregiously and certainly not about the only Church that Jesus and the disciples founded and His faithful. They literally hate what the Church teaches and St. Paul gave us insight into why that is so. He said the following:

    2 Tim 4:3(KJV): For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    Their doctrines and beliefs are of their own creation and they seek out like minded people who believe in he same heresies. The foundation for their arrogance and pride in doing so is the heretical doctrine of Sola Scriptura and the teaching that each man is his own theologian. This has caused tens of thousands of schisms in the Body of Christ. Even the father of Protestantism Martin Luther believed that he was destined for hell for opening this Pandora's box. These are the fruits of Protestantism.

    Remember the founders of Protestantism were Secular Humanists. Calvin was a Secular Humanist lawyer. What they wanted was a God that served man instead of a God that man must serve. This was definitely heterodox teaching that opened the door for all kinds of heresy. What man could imagine he could call truth instead of the orthodox teaching of the Church based solely on God's Word but not limited to the written Word but the living Word contained in its fullness in His Church.

    We Catholics rarely complain about the underserved vitriol about us. I have never become angry no matter how hostile or untrue these anti-Catholics depicted the Church. Most of my fellow Catholics do not as well. We know what our Lord taught us and that is that the world would hate us as it hated Him. Jesus taught us how to react when He said that to insults we are to turn the other cheek. Why would we expect those who hate His Church and what Christ has founded to follow our Lord's teaching. They cannot even restrain themselves from bearing false witness against us. Pridefully they justify their lies as ironically doing God's work. Sin is never God's work and nothing justifies such hatred and disobedience. They do not do this because they feel persecuted but instead because of their arrogance. Certainly they believe that their own self created beliefs are of more veracity than anything Christ, the disciples or His Church could ever teach. It is the age old nemesis of man which is pride which leads to destruction. On the last day it is likely that they will hear from our Lord, "depart from me I never knew you" and they will receive their eternal reward that they have earned which is eternity in the lake of fire.

    God bless!

    In Christ
    Fr. Joseph

    @ http://jesus.christ.org/
     
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    Good for you. . .I'm glad you're happy to be a Catholic.

    Who cares?

    You are wrong. . .there are a LOT more threads about everything else than about "the Catholic Church," but you insist in starting all those threads about the Catholic Church. . .then you complain that there are so many!

    You're just hyper vigilant about criticisms about your Church. . .because you take it personally.

    And ... you are hyper religious, and arrogant about what you perceive as some sort of "superiority" of the Catholics.

    This is wrong and stupid! It is not even in line with the teachings of Christ!

    Get over it.
     
  15. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, keep telling yourself that :D

    I think your church gets targeted for stealing huge amounts of money from the gullible and for giving them horrible sexual advice in return, not to mention the abuse scandals..
     
  16. Bishadi

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    i didnt ask a question

    why the long rant post?































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    First of all, its just an avatar, not a real sword.
    Second of all, I opened a few positive threads only after I saw the mountain of anti-Catholic threads started by others.

    Don't be a pinhead
     
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    If your looking for positive threads on Catholics, you'd best spend your time over at Catholic Answers Forums; there you can find all the positive threads on Catholics and threads bashing non-Catholics that you want. I doubt that your going to find much sympathy about your concerns here.
     
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    Haha... Priceless how while complaining about people attacking the Catholic Church you spend more of the whiny rant attacking Islam.

    No, when people hate on Islam I do not slit their throats... lol...

    Nor do I get all defensive and attack their religion. I don't attack them personally. I just explain to them, often nicely, how they are wrong.

    Eventually I guess some people stopped trying when they realized I wouldn't go away. Although there are some people I have ignored because we literally just went back and forth paraphrasing out previous posts. That gets boring.

    Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

    Ironic how this is a Christian saying, and would significantly damper the haters, yet instead we have a "Catholic Crusader" complaining about people hating his faith while simultaneously hating on another religion...

    Show respect to people, and they will return it.

    Peace
     
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    Maybe it's the fact that catholic leaders openly protect child rapists.
     
  21. Swensson

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    For starters, they're not that many. There are more of them than there usually is, but that happens to every subject every once in a while from statistics. If we only react when there is an abundance, we could have made the same post about Islam a few months ago (actually, I think we did) and one about atheism a few months before that.

    I also wonder what your definition of thread "attacking the Catholic Church" is. For instance, you start a bunch of pro-Catholic threads. When anyone from the religious spectrum disagrees with you, do you count that as attacking the Catholic Church? In that case, most ideas here are being attacked, you just don't notice the ones that aren't aimed at you.

    And while we're at it, you start a bunch of pro-Catholic threads. That makes people think about the Church, making people come up with threads.

    There is also the fact that you and others, tend to defend Catholicism quite vigorously. This means that the threads in question stay alive for longer, and will therefore look more common.

    As for the comparison with other kinds of Christianity, Catholicism has a much more high profile status. Popes and golden bibles are more likely to attract attention than most of protestantism. It is also one of the largest religions, it'd be odd if larger religions weren't discussed more vividly. For instance, there is very little discussion about small religions like African or Asian traditional ones.

    Other than that, I'm sure people would be interested in discussing similar questions about other denominations. I can't claim that the CC is more prone to committing these kinds of crimes, but they're certainly more high profile. I'm talking about the stuff in the threads I assume you refer to when you say "attacking the CC", "The CC is a criminal organization" talks about covering up crime, if you find anyone else doing that, we'd be interested in knowing.
     
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    My error. I meant to respond to CatholicCrusader's observation as well as his question. Please feel free to disregard.
     
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    I agree with you 100%. I just like to toss these peoples' hypocrisies in their faces. Of course they won't get it, but I do it anyways.

    Are you kidding? Look at ther first page and you will see "Catholic" a bunch of times, but you will not see the words Lutherans, Anglicans, Pentascostals, Methodists, Buhhdists, Hindus, etc. once.
     
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    I don't think that is in my cards, my friend. If the good Irish priest wjho married my wife and I cannot convince me, nobody will. That said, I would never attack the church for any reason as I still give them (and my parents, of course) credit for instilling the morals I hold dear.

    A little unnecessary, don't you think? While I definitely hold the church accountable for their dark past, I think the church has done many great things for society in the past.

    That is partly the reason Daggdag, but not all of it, it's not all to do with the church itself, either.
     
  25. Swensson

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    True, but not all of them are attacking. You posted one, and then there's the "the CC isn't responsible for every bad thing". If you count the pope ones, you actually have more threads for than against. Then again, number of threads is no good measurement for support. The CC is simply high profile, and all the other stuff I wrote in my post.
     

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